From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Tue Jun 7 13:32:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9012B6E505 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2016 13:32:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F4E1775 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2016 13:32:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id A062AB6E504; Tue, 7 Jun 2016 13:32:40 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0054B6E503 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2016 13:32:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 635031773; Tue, 7 Jun 2016 13:32:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1bAH7W-0008LO-FK; Tue, 07 Jun 2016 16:32:38 +0300 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 16:32:38 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Ian Lepore Cc: krad , "stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: unbound and ntp issuse Message-ID: <20160607133238.GO75630@zxy.spb.ru> References: <20160603191523.GE75630@zxy.spb.ru> <44y46ie92p.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20160606135018.GL75630@zxy.spb.ru> <20160607084733.GM75630@zxy.spb.ru> <20160607104335.GN75630@zxy.spb.ru> <1465306172.1188.24.camel@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1465306172.1188.24.camel@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2016 13:32:40 -0000 On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 07:29:32AM -0600, Ian Lepore wrote: > On Tue, 2016-06-07 at 12:10 +0100, krad wrote: > > whops that should be > > > > ntpdate_hosts not servers > > > > These suggestions are essentially insane because they're ignoring the > basic fact that the freebsd installer creates a non-working system. If > unbound requires DNSSEC, and DNSSEC requires good time, and good time > requires hostname resolution, then that circular dependency is a > problem that the freebsd project needs to fix, not something to be > hacked around by each individual sysadmin. Exactly! This is may point! > It is a bit disturbing to me that the project members who created this > situation have been silent in the face of *months* of reporting of it > by several different users.