From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jun 8 00:50:37 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5633333CE85 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2020 00:50:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49gF6N4H6xz42Dr for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2020 00:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [192.168.43.231] (unknown [172.58.139.252]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F38B24E652 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 19:50:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Valeri Galtsev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: OT: Minimal skills Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 19:50:34 -0500 References: To: FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <2B169B55-6D7C-45D2-BCB1-03F0D1948EDA@kicp.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49gF6N4H6xz42Dr X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.25 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[172.58.139.252:received]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.02)[-0.021]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.58)[0.580]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.09)[0.093]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2020 00:50:37 -0000 This is totally OT, so I am purposefully top posting, and leaving = portion of message just so it contains names of two companies. When Oracle bought out Sun, there was a joke: how we should call the = system now? the answer is simple, keep repeating Sun - Oracle again, and again, faster and faster and you will get it right at some = point: snorkel ;-) I hope, this will give people some loughs and get their focus away from = heated discussion. No, I was not the one who made the joke, but I really = liked it when I first heard it. Valeri > On Jun 7, 2020, at 7:26 PM, Valeri Galtsev = wrote: >=20 > While Sun Microsystems was behind Java I was quite certain there will = be no changes neither for end user use of Java, not for openjdk. Sun = Microsystem did have that reputation (at least, in my book). Oracle has = different reputation (again, in my book).