From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Mar 6 17:49:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29628 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:49:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA29605 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:49:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 21421 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Mar 1998 01:58:01 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-021598 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199803070118.SAA25810@usr09.primenet.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 17:58:01 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Terry Lambert Subject: Re: SCSI Bus redundancy... Cc: dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk, wilko@yedi.iaf.nl, julian@whistle.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, lada@ws2301.gud.siemens.at Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 07-Mar-98 Terry Lambert wrote: ... > Other than overcommitted tone generators and DTMF decoders in the case > of a state of emergency (ie: the last earthquake of 6.x or higher), I > have *never* had an interruption of phone service. My power goes out > with much greater frequency than my phones ever have. It runs 20:1 in residential, 4-6:1 in commercial areas. > I think if an ISP isn't part of the communications infrastructure, > he'll be replaced by one of his competitors who is. Reliability is > starting to be one of the top line items people (at least in the US) > are using when choosing an ISP, now that pricing is starting to fall > into specific ranges for specific service offerings as the ISP > competition space gets saturated. ISP services are becoming a > commodity. > > Try thinking of it this way: if you have a site selling cars that's not > on an HA server, and your competitor has one that is on an HA server, > and you have a power outage in your part of California, who is the > guy in New York going to buy through, the server that's down or the > server that's up? Now that you agreed with me that HA servers are important, are you going to help me build a FreeBSD one? I would really love to have you involved in this. Your insight and understanding can only make it better. I used to do this particular work for my employer, with the understanding that generic code goes back to FreeBSD. That agreement is still in force, but I am leaving that job as soon as I can, but want to continue this work. ---------- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG Voice: 503.799.2313 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message