From owner-freebsd-gecko@freebsd.org Sun Jun 28 12:43:21 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gecko@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5335434B305 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:43:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmt@burggraben.net) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49vqzY0dq9z4LhZ for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:43:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmt@burggraben.net) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 13F6D34B058; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: gecko@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BD434B304 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:43:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmt@burggraben.net) Received: from smtp.burggraben.net (smtp.burggraben.net [88.198.69.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.burggraben.net", Issuer "Christoph Moench-Tegeder" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49vqzW5BdVz4M4H for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:43:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmt@burggraben.net) Received: from elch.exwg.net (elch.exwg.net [IPv6:2001:470:7120:1:127b:44ff:fe4f:148d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "elch.exwg.net", Issuer "Christoph Moench-Tegeder" (not verified)) by smtp.burggraben.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99BE9C0030B; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 14:43:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elch.exwg.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 423A1139877; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 14:43:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2020 14:43:17 +0200 From: Christoph Moench-Tegeder To: Christopher Tipper Cc: gecko@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: www/firefox Message-ID: <20200628124317.GA2469@elch.exwg.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.14.5 (2020-06-23) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49vqzW5BdVz4M4H X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of cmt@burggraben.net designates 88.198.69.140 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=cmt@burggraben.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.52 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.985]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:88.198.69.140]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.967]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[burggraben.net]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.27)[-0.265]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[88.198.69.140:from]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:88.198.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-gecko@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Gecko Rendering Engine issues List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:43:21 -0000 ## Christopher Tipper (chris.tipper@gmail.com): > 1. Firefox relases 78.0 is not sheduled until 30-Jun > https://wiki.mozilla.org/Release_Management/Calendar > Why have there been two patches of this unreleased version in the last > two days, particularly as pkg.freebsd.org cannot provide the releases fast > enough? It's standing policy (for several years now, really) to use the release candidates in order to get critical fixes faster and to have at least some chance to catch FreeBSD-specific regressions earlier, especially as FreeBSD is not a fully-supported platform at Mozilla. > Please maintain the discipline of the upstream relese cycle at least > they know where the issues exist. If it was that easy, they didn't need to do betas and RCs, wouldn't they? And if you want to wait for the final version, you're free to not upgrade right now. > 2. From https://www.freshports.org/www/firefox/ this message is crazy you > can't deprecate the only browser the platform provides that is fully > functional? Chromium is not a viable alternative font rendering for > Chromium is completely broken. Font rendering in chromium being "completely broken" is news for me. Having said that... - chromium carries exactly the same deprecation warning. - both upstream projects (mozilla and chromium) are working making their build systems (that's what this is about) Python 3 compatible. Last I heard was that mozilla is planning that for Firefox 80 (no idea about ESR). - nevertheless, Python 2 is going to go away at the end of the year, taking all the Python-2-only ports with it. Regards, Christoph -- Spare Space