From owner-freebsd-git@freebsd.org Wed Oct 14 18:02:58 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-git@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5165543F652 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 18:02:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x82c.google.com (mail-qt1-x82c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CBKyT45gTz4Jgh for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 18:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x82c.google.com with SMTP id h19so2835594qtq.4 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 11:02:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=tg7vPn0lUPpS7tedZS64ngYd+O1vt2tpchaYqyrK3co=; b=Ua6Qa4LhA/IxxA8knPhqqRYuFRsQaDz2/u1I7+ngYKmPt7apaupamngjeHeDm51ntt Y2NfpdvEvncRxUS6B7i+SaOR8MDxBzAaX+5upiTqIuivoDoSBhaMvKfKQ4svvAW7mADi uWbtzJ2YqBRYHdSDcw9LfjTIlNY8KVOew0TFP7UC8QnczffFZJ6bRw946AKsN817C0F3 STEq07HI+z1afmcItqLf+dA0UlTBI9e/4n/xLcaJ1q8AX0cBNWyQ75UBJGItwI165alb IaZq2JdpgRsc8cR+o9iOH8l6Y3fKBBzEELK1S1l9CyDvjYSv1HA07BHFLQ+9tiMwl12V bFWw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=tg7vPn0lUPpS7tedZS64ngYd+O1vt2tpchaYqyrK3co=; b=X+0A4CuDtquf9mEexZDeZ+Kap9iDo7PfMbVe5nKqslHyJxCE3hD0OSzVHbxKsHqdB5 U4NarN4HoFlQd6G7bPhaEIXwsZ+z2IDyKwaa3lRpPe25v4J7N9+udc9JqIvj2Bt6EqQa tf01WKfR252QJVNDJA+DmbbGV3sHvAhWw7mByK33oSEp0ArVsiGiShG113TUKyyNIKID U32e3t6jR+P0jITzCOm4Fybf9pw0hJx+WWdRS6S93ZaSEi2zHpQKNy+detZHbnQ6J/lu R68loBvzynzVXN3x5Yq/3V5CdyIkYoByfhTvJOgVziPw/v5l/X1kJBsJtVOsothKnRwN xw/g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532iwdyaBpbgjwzDMD+HroqYdyIDQUUVi3VhazaPYQ1cEK2VKr0r xbUIEj5U0hNl1GKuh3Pw01pFIMBy/NX1Nlz4IIMFLuvDh1Y1MQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyl13MFiOA7XoKyYd8n1wdjeWwmH0xjDnqDtZAdJV3r3vuLOENo5f5kNJncuQEQ914dbGYV9gBsAxC+fssTyAk= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:a83:: with SMTP id d3mr367094qti.49.1602698576470; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 11:02:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20201014174214.GA66478@lion.0xfce3.net> <20201014175721.GA73584@lion.0xfce3.net> In-Reply-To: <20201014175721.GA73584@lion.0xfce3.net> From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 12:02:45 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svnweb persistence To: Gordon Bergling Cc: freebsd-git@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CBKyT45gTz4Jgh X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=Ua6Qa4Lh; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wlosh@bsdimp.com has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82c) smtp.mailfrom=wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.18 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.945]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.971]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-git@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::82c:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.26)[-0.260]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-git]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-git@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of git use in the FreeBSD project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 18:02:58 -0000 On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 11:57 AM Gordon Bergling wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 11:44:56AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 11:42 AM Gordon Bergling > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > regarding the upcoming switch from subversion to git. Is it planned > that > > > svnweb.freebsd.org is kept alive? > > > > > > There are numerous sources on the web where this host is referenced for > > > commits. > > > > > > > That's the plan for the foreseeable future, but some years from now we > may > > turn it off. > > > > Warner > > Thanks for the good news. Since the source repository has a history of > nearly > 20+ years, I would recommended that we keep that CNAME for at least this > period > of time alive. Maybe a static version, so that we don't have to keep the > whole subversion infrastructure intact. > To be fair, it's only 12 years of SVN data (prior to that it was CVS) and we'll be retaining all the history in git with revision numbers, so we might be able to do a redirect after we retire. When we did the CVS -> SVN cutover, CVS was gone within a couple of years (I don't have the exact timeline handy). The data will be available for sure. We'll do our best to make sure the links work, but if that proves to be too difficult, we may drop them. The svn server will run for a few years still, at least to the end of 12.x branch. Warner