From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Apr 28 22:26:20 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA08636 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 22:26:20 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA08630 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 22:26:19 -0700 Received: (from phk@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id WAA23948; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 22:25:51 -0700 From: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-Id: <199504290525.WAA23948@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: What I'd *really like* for 2.0.5 To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 22:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu, faulkner@mpd.tandem.com, kelly@fsl.noaa.gov, hackers@FreeBSD.org, root@morton.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <11052.799132602@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Apr 28, 95 10:16:42 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1276 Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > All the probe messages irritate the hell out of me. The style is > inconsistent in many places and I still maintain that I do *NOT* want > to know about all the things it didn't find, I want to know about only > the things it did since the "fnob0: not found" messages just obscure > the messages I'm really looking for (or cause them to scroll off the > screen). Unfortunately, I seem to be in the minority here as a number > of other folks say that they like all that "extra diagnostic information." With the advent of userconfig, I'm for removing them. Now you can use userconfig to see what drivers you have in your kernel. Lets kill them now. > I say fiddlesticks, and it's time to make the -v flag earn its keep. > FreeBSD should either shut up entirely or spew loads of stuff at you > if you boot with -v. Not "shut up entirely". We want it to tell us what if found. By maybe just the "found" messages should be printed as default. All the "X Mb/s MAC-address-" kind of stuff can die for all I care. > Anyone of a mind to go on a little boot message reform rampage? yes please. -- Poul-Henning Kamp -- TRW Financial Systems, Inc. 'All relevant people are pertinent' && 'All rude people are impertinent' => 'no rude people are relevant'