From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 25 02:18:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD44C106564A; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 02:18:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399498FC12; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 02:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54705E62C1; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 03:18:22 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=rHA23GaMbjAP qGcZo/u1CUmaPBs=; b=Sx656XaaHrPE9u3hHlXY9be+aarKAQvGkKl+sBCE36E8 q9I/uvG4VgAzb0WxtpdBRqBbKLw+0RHrdzkQU+SUf6VybwOHlgJziSarEfh6MXch CYXYGOnTuDzMCXM3uGM1kBGu5NfT2Kiu41oCMtrqfqHuyUmBIphf/bdK3fbEy+o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=aO7rse nUvsUMX4pDxXGA3J548nNSm7tEdYJTWpW08iuOS5P8GOGg8pavRviPv7uEW1TlX3 dPold0GPQVt1Q3BmjxtyZsEL9qRgBcy6ek8cier8WnGGI98ff2D5OFnKqVOyPrQk hn5ISqkKB+QsuowbY0/85YryIW2XB5AkVaZOA= Received: from [192.168.1.64] (188-222-18-231.zone13.bethere.co.uk [188.222.18.231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 138D6E62B5; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 03:18:22 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4E2CD26B.7090503@cran.org.uk> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 03:18:19 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nathan Whitehorn References: <20110724162937.33865zm0kn4ztdwk@econet.encontacto.net> <4E2C8FBE.7040003@freebsd.org> <4E2CA4A7.7020100@fuzzwad.org> <4E2CC0D0.4090309@cran.org.uk> <4E2CC1F2.2070607@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4E2CC1F2.2070607@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current , Ron McDowell , eculp Subject: Re: Trying to install current from a memory stick and then a DVD and got a new and strange installer. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 02:18:23 -0000 On 25/07/2011 02:08, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > On 07/24/11 20:03, Bruce Cran wrote: >> On 25/07/2011 00:03, Ron McDowell wrote: >>> 1) no "back" button/selection/mechanism on each screen. Rebooting >>> because I fat-fingered something on the previous screen is, well, >>> unacceptable. >>> 2) no "minimal" install. Most of my installs are single- or >>> few-task servers where I need a base os and a couple ports. >>> 3) I see no "post-install" uses on the new one. Sysinstall could be >>> used on an up-and-running system to do everything from adding a user >>> to changing a nameserver and more. >> >> Another potential problem is that the new version of libdialog that >> the new installer uses changes the way navigation is done: on Linux >> and in the previous version on FreeBSD it's possible to press >> to change focus to the buttons and different UI elements. That >> doesn't work any more. >> > > It's a change from before, but a normalization with respect to most > Linux distributions, since we are now using the same dialog as, e.g., > Debian and Ubuntu. The Debian 6.0.2.1 installer appears to use the old navigation method, and SuSE 11.4 seems to too. -- Bruce Cran