From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 12 15:13:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADC21065678 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AB28FC12 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mACFDYes083320; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:13:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2199EBA8A; Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:13:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:13:31 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Jonathan McKeown Message-ID: <20081112151331.GA68018@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <200811121259.25046.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <20081112120147.GA62386@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <200811121513.47138.jonathan@hst.org.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200811121513.47138.jonathan@hst.org.za> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Release schedules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:13:51 -0000 --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 03:13:47PM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Wednesday 12 November 2008 14:01:47 Roland Smith wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:59:24PM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > > > I've been biting my tongue about this because I'm not sure that I can > > > offer any help or useful suggestions, but here goes... > > > > > > What on earth is going on with release scheduling? > > > > Two words: volunteer project >=20 > Oh, I fully understand that, which is why I also asked whether there's=20 > anything I can do to help, with my meagre abilities and resources.=20 Acquire the skills necessary and contribute in an area that interests you, where you can "scratch an itch" so to speak. > This=20 > wasn't intended to demean the efforts of the release team at all; it was = more=20 > a plea for better communication when delays start to accumulate. >=20 > > I would propose to do away with the release schedule altogether, or make > > it very succinct; > > > > next release: when it's done. >=20 > Yes - but is it not possible to estimate (and as a long-suffering sysadmi= n, I=20 > know I'm on shaky ground here after some of the estimated schedules I've= =20 > given my management and my users!) roughly how far off we are? Even the o= ld=20 > todo list on the website offered some guide. Watch the mailing-lists. freebsd-announce, freebsd-current, freebsd-stable and maybe freebsd-hackers. Or contact the release engineering team. See http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEUEARECAAYFAkka8psACgkQEnfvsMMhpyU5fACcD1Vx/qVgvNIxLh/6Qrn57SWY hMYAmNHNYS7o/I6JbWReaXsgWRF/PXU= =Q959 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+--