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Date:      Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:26:51 +0200
From:      Peter Pentchev <roam@orbitel.bg>
To:        freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: [PATCH] add a SITE MD5 command to ftpd
Message-ID:  <20010314112651.C23104@ringworld.oblivion.bg>
In-Reply-To: <20010314012132.A91957@dragon.nuxi.com>; from TrimYourCc@NUXI.com on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 01:21:33AM -0800
References:  <20010313211544.B17733@ringworld.oblivion.bg> <200103140459.VAA03061@usr05.primenet.com> <20010314084651.A23104@ringworld.oblivion.bg> <20010314012132.A91957@dragon.nuxi.com>

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On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 01:21:33AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 08:46:51AM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> > > > I know that adding a ``SITE MD5 filename'' command to our ftpd
> > > > is a *very* little step in a possibly wrong direction (this will
> ..snip..
> > This is NOT meant as a replacement for the local security check
> > that is there for a very good reason.  It is only meant to
> > provide some kind of an 'early warning' in those rare, but VERY
> > annoying cases when the distributors reroll the dist tarballs
> > without a version number bumping.  If the distributor wants to
> > fool the FreeBSD Ports collection by using an ftpd that pretends
> > to support this, yet does not, then we're absolutely no worse
> > than we are now - the notification for changed checksums only
> > comes when somebody tries to build the port and ends up sending
> > a PR instead.
> 
> Perhaps you should fill in the details then.  First you say
> "SITE MD5 filename" will keep us from having to download a binary to
> check it.  Then that the check will not really be used for anything.
> So _exactly_ how do you propose this feature to be used?  Only by the
> fenner script?  If so, I think we can provide suffient bandwidth for that
> w/o this "feature".
> 
> How will a site that pretends to have this capability yet does not; not
> make things worse than today?  The only way for that to be the case is
> for nothing/one to trust the result of "SITE MD5 filename" for *any*
> purpose.  If that is the case, why have the "feature"?

Yes, this is only intended for fenner-like scripts, with the added benefit
that a server-side MD5 checksum calculation would give individual port
maintainers the ability to easily check their own ports often.

G'luck,
Peter

-- 
Do you think anybody has ever had *precisely this thought* before?

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