From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 15 18:30:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emulation@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F3C16A41A for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from auweter@informatik.tu-muenchen.de) Received: from mail-out.m-online.net (mail-out.m-online.net [212.18.0.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A6443D46 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:30:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from auweter@informatik.tu-muenchen.de) Received: from mail01.m-online.net (svr21.m-online.net [192.168.3.149]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71CF72DCD; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:30:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: YtnawF7q69KzE0RUyb8ONaByoeAJbMN1OupxA3oDjZI= X-Auth-Info: YtnawF7q69KzE0RUyb8ONaByoeAJbMN1OupxA3oDjZI= X-Auth-Info: YtnawF7q69KzE0RUyb8ONaByoeAJbMN1OupxA3oDjZI= X-Auth-Info: YtnawF7q69KzE0RUyb8ONaByoeAJbMN1OupxA3oDjZI= Received: from [192.168.0.10] (ppp-82-135-7-130.mnet-online.de [82.135.7.130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936609241E; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:30:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4491A72E.4080900@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:30:06 +0200 From: Axel Auweter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-AT; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060509 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mikhail Teterin References: <4491A05D.5020803@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <200606151405.43227.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> In-Reply-To: <200606151405.43227.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running MacOS-X i386 binaries on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:30:12 -0000 Hi, Mikhail Teterin wrote: >четвер 15 червень 2006 14:01, Axel Auweter написав: > > >I was more thinking on providing the kernel support to run Apple's own >(binary) Cocoa and Carbon. > > Yes, a possible use of it would be to simply replace the XNU kernel with a FreeBSD kernel (or to have a Darwin / MacOS userland running in parallel of your FreeBSD apps). But unfortunately, like Andrew Reily has said, you need a lot more than just loading Mach-O binary files (IOKit, Mach messaging, ...). >WINE, after all, can (or is supposed to be able to) use native windows system >DLLs. I thought, it would only be easier with MacOS-X... > > Without knowing too much about Wine, I'd say it is probably the about the same difficulty. And we all know how that wine wasn't developed within a few weeks... :-( bye, Axel