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Date:      Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:00:15 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Me Uh, K." <pram512@yahoo.com>
To:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Fwd: Re: dump(8) Insecurity/Misconfiguration
Message-ID:  <19990927220015.29715.rocketmail@web1003.mail.yahoo.com>

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[Mr. Grimes' reply, as mentioned in previous email]

--- "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
wrote:
> From: "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
> Subject: Re: dump(8) Insecurity/Misconfiguration
> To: pram512@yahoo.com
> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:32:34 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> [This should have really been on the list, with your
> permission please forward this reply back onto the
> list]
> 
> > Just a side question, off topic -
> > 
> > [SNIP]
> > > For example, an Internet service provider is
> allowed
> > to install this program on their systems and
> permit
> > clients to use SSH to connect; however, actively
> > distributing SSH to clients for the purpose of
> > providing added value requires separate licensing.
>  
> > 
> > Would it be all right to distribute:
> > A) at the customer's request?
> 
> Not if it ``provided added value''.  I think you
> would
> be safest just creating a link to allow you client
> to
> down load it.  That would then make it ``passive
> distribution'' and
> not ``active distribution'', and then the ``purpose
> of
> prociding added value'' clause looks to become a
> moot point since
> you didn't do it actively.
> 
> > B) if there are no additional charges for the SSH?
> 
> > (the actual value of the service goes up, but most
> ISP
> > customers don't even use telnet for anything other
> > than uploading thier webpages - yet it still comes
> > with most ISP software bundles, and the ISP
> doesn't
> > charge any additional fees for the ability, or for
> the
> > software- course, last I checked, it's always been
> a
> > free program, anyway)
> 
> That one is a slippery slope, it would take careful
> legal
> evalutation for letter and intent of the license.  
> Just
> because you didn't charge for that specific item
> doesn't
> mean your not using it to add value.
> 
> > 
> > I know we're not lawyers here, and that answers
> are
> > only theoretical interpretations, ect.  
> 
> And given that we are looking at only snippets of a
> larger
> document much of what any of us say here could
> easily be
> invalidated by other parts of the document.  I have
> not
> read any part of it other than the pieces posted in
> the
> thread before us.
> 
> -- 
> Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25)                   
> rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net
> 

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