From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 26 18:51:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7AB16A4CE for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:51:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B02943D67 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:51:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 26 Apr 2005 18:51:22 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) [62.245.232.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 26 Apr 2005 20:51:22 +0200 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:51:14 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200504262010.49509@harrymail> <426E8BE6.7090800@aueb.gr> In-Reply-To: <426E8BE6.7090800@aueb.gr> X-Birthday: Oct. 6th 1972 X-CelPhone: +49 (0) 173 9967781 X-Tel: +49 (0) 89 18947781 X-Country: Germany X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3979307.R0PUZGRCoS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200504262051.21729@harrymail> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 cc: Diomidis Spinellis cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: groff alternative? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:51:24 -0000 --nextPart3979307.R0PUZGRCoS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Dienstag, 26. April 2005 20:43 schrieb Diomidis Spinellis: > Emanuel Strobl wrote: > > I'm using NO_CXX in my make.conf to strip down the base system to ~50MB > > including man pages. The only problem is that groff is missing if I don= 't > > build c++, and even if I build groff itself and the needed libstdc++ it > > costs me about 10MB. If I just skip NO_CXX it's only 500k more, so I > > moved my patches to /dev/null. > > Does anybody know any alternative for the groff part to view man pages > > simply with the man command? It's horrible that the filter needs more > > space than all the manpages itself! > > Have you considered preformatting the manual pages on the development > system, and copying over the pages into /usr/share/man/cat* of the > shrinked-down system? > > > And of course, even if I decide to leave system man pages outside the > > flash card I still may want to read man pages of installed packages > > (which is another mountpoint on my installation, so there may be no spa= ce > > limit, depending on the card and additional drives) > > Again, it appears your shrinked-down system has access to a more > powerful machine. You could modify man to run groff on the remote machin= e. That's a possible solution, but not the way I like it. If I once installed = one=20 of these embedded boxes and decide to add a small package it should be=20 possible to read the package's man page without any help of other machines.= =20 Also ordinary package-installation should work, so preformatting system man= =20 pages is a good idea but not applicable for the ports/packages. Thanks, =2DHarry --nextPart3979307.R0PUZGRCoS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBCbo2pBylq0S4AzzwRAo5rAKCB3wa7pxiz0HiV9DkFPihR4VttOACghDkY cC6z8VpZENh9Fm6ajp9ltB4= =qoBB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3979307.R0PUZGRCoS--