From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 17:31:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A4E16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:31:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from meisai.numachi.com (meisai.numachi.com [198.175.254.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 72F8B43D46 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:31:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reichert@numachi.com) Received: (qmail 15059 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2005 17:31:30 -0000 Received: from natto.numachi.com (198.175.254.216) by meisai.numachi.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 17:31:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 26963 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Jan 2005 17:31:30 -0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:31:30 -0500 From: Brian Reichert To: Charles Swiger Message-ID: <20050114173130.GY42653@numachi.com> References: <20050114131102.GA95157@totem.fix.no> <4B078DEB-664F-11D9-97FA-003065ABFD92@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B078DEB-664F-11D9-97FA-003065ABFD92@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: Anders Nordby Subject: Re: Tools to wash email-lists for bouncing addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:31:32 -0000 On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 12:11:13PM -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > Use Mailman for your mailing list software; Mailman is smart enough to > understand bounces from list traffic and disable or remove old > addresses. The FreeBSD lists are using Mailman now... ezmlm-managed lists do as well, but it's married to qmail, which might not be useful for you... As described on other lists, you'll need to be able to generate a message for each recipient with their subscribed address somehow encoded in the envelope sender address, such that when a bounce returns to the list manager, that software can extract it. Under the qmail universe, such a construct is called a VERP (Variable Envelope Return Paths): As far as I know, ezmlm was the first MLM to handle bounces in this manner, but many other MLMs now utilize similar features... In fact, a Google search on 'VERP' reveals many hits for other MTA/MLM combinations. > -- > -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Brian Reichert 37 Crystal Ave. #303 Daytime number: (603) 434-6842 Derry NH 03038-1713 USA BSD admin/developer at large