From owner-freebsd-current Sun Aug 4 21:58: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71E137B400 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 21:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cpw.math.columbia.edu (cpw.math.columbia.edu [128.59.192.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80DF43E65 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 21:57:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from atici@math.columbia.edu) Received: from math.columbia.edu (atici@intel4.math.columbia.edu [128.59.192.29]) by cpw.math.columbia.edu (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g754vvap015120 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 00:57:58 -0400 Message-ID: <3D4E05DB.8030803@math.columbia.edu> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 00:58:03 -0400 From: Alp ATICI User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020606 X-Accept-Language: en-us, tr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: About 5.0 and Nvidia drivers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Frank Mayhar wrote: > I'll bet you that there'll be drivers for it before there are drivers for > the GF4. I guess that is never going to be the case. Since ATI does not produce drivers for linux (or any other UNIX) and has no such plans (AFAIK). XFree86 supports it, this is another story. Still you don't have any 3D acceleration. Thus you can't count this as a driver. But you can go for Accel-X's x server. However with NVidia case, they provide perfect drivers for linux. So Nvidia's stance is quite better compared to ATI's. Yet they don't want to open their OpenGL implementation because of SGI patents (Am I right?). But still they might release (as far as I've heard) a FreeBSD driver which would be quite good. I don't care about a 10% working driver for a card of worth $200 anyway. I care about full support. I'd even go for the Matrox Parhelia if it's supported well under FreeBSD (via Xfree86 or other X servers). Yes you might claim Firewire support is not important, or say USB support for esoteric devices (webcam, etc) is non-essential. And I'd agree with you. But when it comes to the hardware accelerated graphics, I think it's a very essential piece of the computer. And it will stay like that until humankind could interact with the computers in R2D2 style. BTW Accel-X's Summit 2.1 has not been released for FreeBSD, they told me the demand looks very little, but they said they would probably offer it in the future. Alp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message