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Has this been removed? To: Tomoaki AOKI Cc: Chris , freebsd-current Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000114bc90615256802" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4V8P950sX4z45mY --000000000000114bc90615256802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 11:53=E2=80=AFAM Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 08:53:15 -0700 > Chris wrote: > > > On 2024-04-02 04:32, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > > > On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 00:42:23 -0700 > > > Chris wrote: > > > > > >> On 2024-04-01 22:51, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > >> > On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 3:05=E2=80=AFPM Chris > wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> I experience challenges running FreeBSD on my Alder Lake laptop. > > >> >> With some help on the list and Bugzilla, I was able to get Graphi= cs > > >> >> WiFi at least working. But still wasn't as stable as running on > > >> >> more dated CPU's. As it is; I'm only able to use CURRENT. Beginni= ng > > >> >> of last week, in hopes of getting a more stable experience. I wip= ed > > >> >> the partition (UFS) and unpacked the version available on the > FreeBSD > > >> >> ftp servers at that time. I quickly discovered that multi-cons > (Ctrl+ > > >> >> Alt+Fn || Alt+Fn) was no longer available. I posted this discover= y > to > > >> >> the list. But no solution was discovered. I've since attempted to > use > > >> >> 2 more different newer versions. Both of them were also w/o > multi-con(s) > > >> >> support. What must I do to fix, or uncover the cause of this? > > >> >> I only load the associated GPU module in rc.conf(5) (no keyboard > settings). > > >> >> I'm also unable to get multi-cons booting from any of the boot > media > > >> >> produced within the last week. > > >> >> > > >> >> Following are some specifics: > > >> >> > > >> >> CPU: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-1215U (2496.00-MHz K8-class CP= U) > > >> >> > > >> >> IdeaPad 3 17IAU7 > > >> >> > [Lots of details elided]] > > >> > > > >> > I have a T16 and ran into that issue. It may be that BIOS changes > have > > >> > broken things, but I found that, by default, the F keys control > volume, > > >> > screen brightness, and many other things. I can use Fn+F[1-12] to > perform > > >> > traditional function key functions. I found that bios has an optio= n > to make > > >> > the traditional functions the default which is how I am running > today and > > >> > have since shortly after I purchased the computer. One I set that > BIOS > > >> > option, everything worked "properly". I now use Fn+F[1-12] to > adjust volume > > >> > and screen brightness. I hope to get mute to work, but I need to > figure out > > >> > which event is set when Fn+F1 is pressed to write trivial devd > support for > > >> > it. > > >> Well, I can't explain it. I set everything up in the BIOS to work > > >> "traditionally" > > >> and everything worked fine up until the upgrade. Where everything we= nt > > >> "south" > > >> in the Fn department. But since you mentioned it. I thought I'd > review the > > >> settings > > >> and sure enough, the Function key settings had changed. I have no > > >> explanation. I > > >> haven't been to the BIOS settings since initial setup. But only that > > >> setting > > >> was > > >> changed. I can't thank you enough for mentioning this, Kevin. I > *really* > > >> appreciate > > >> your taking the time to reply! > > > > > > So I was correct. ;-) > > I don't know how in the **** I missed your suggestion. Thank you for > figuring > > it out, > > (even if I somehow missed it)! How embarrassing. > > Maybe just because my previous post was sent to this ML only, not > including your email directly as a recipient. ;-) > FWIW, when I sent the message to "All", bsdforge had blocked it (550 5.0.0 REJECT, too much abuse from your host). If this is an indication that my system is misbehaving, please let me know. --=20 Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 --000000000000114bc90615256802 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 11:53=E2= =80=AFAM Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp> wrote:
On Tue,= 02 Apr 2024 08:53:15 -0700
Chris <bsd-l= ists@bsdforge.com> wrote:

> On 2024-04-02 04:32, Tomoaki AOKI wrote:
> > On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 00:42:23 -0700
> > Chris <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2024-04-01 22:51, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 3:05=E2=80=AFPM Chris <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com= > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I experience challenges running FreeBSD on my Alder = Lake laptop.
> >> >> With some help on the list and Bugzilla, I was able = to get Graphics
> >> >> WiFi at least working. But still wasn't as stabl= e as running on
> >> >> more dated CPU's. As it is; I'm only able to= use CURRENT. Beginning
> >> >> of last week, in hopes of getting a more stable expe= rience. I wiped
> >> >> the partition (UFS) and unpacked the version availab= le on the FreeBSD
> >> >> ftp servers at that time. I quickly discovered that = multi-cons (Ctrl+
> >> >> Alt+Fn || Alt+Fn) was no longer available. I posted = this discovery to
> >> >> the list. But no solution was discovered. I've s= ince attempted to use
> >> >> 2 more different newer versions. Both of them were a= lso w/o multi-con(s)
> >> >> support. What must I do to fix, or uncover the cause= of this?
> >> >> I only load the associated GPU module in rc.conf(5) = (no keyboard settings).
> >> >> I'm also unable to get multi-cons booting from a= ny of the boot media
> >> >> produced within the last week.
> >> >>
> >> >> Following are some specifics:
> >> >>
> >> >> CPU: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-1215U (2496.00-MH= z K8-class CPU)
> >> >>
> >> >> IdeaPad 3 17IAU7
> >> >>
[Lots of details eli= ded]]
&g= t; >> >
> >> > I have a T16 and ran into that issue. It may be that BIO= S changes have
> >> > broken things, but I found that, by default, the F keys = control volume,
> >> > screen brightness, and many other things. I can use Fn+F= [1-12] to perform
> >> > traditional function key functions. I found that bios ha= s an option to make
> >> > the traditional functions the default which is how I am = running today and
> >> > have since shortly after I purchased the computer. One I= set that BIOS
> >> > option, everything worked "properly". I now us= e Fn+F[1-12] to adjust volume
> >> > and screen brightness. I hope to get mute to work, but I= need to figure out
> >> > which event is set when Fn+F1 is pressed to write trivia= l devd support for
> >> > it.
> >> Well, I can't explain it. I set everything up in the BIOS= to work
> >> "traditionally"
> >> and everything worked fine up until the upgrade. Where everyt= hing went
> >> "south"
> >> in the Fn department. But since you mentioned it. I thought I= 'd review the
> >> settings
> >> and sure enough, the Function key settings had changed. I hav= e no
> >> explanation. I
> >> haven't been to the BIOS settings since initial setup. Bu= t only that
> >> setting
> >> was
> >> changed. I can't thank you enough for mentioning this, Ke= vin. I *really*
> >> appreciate
> >> your taking the time to reply!
> >
> > So I was correct. ;-)
> I don't know how in the **** I missed your suggestion. Thank you f= or figuring
> it out,
> (even if I somehow missed it)! How embarrassing.

Maybe just because my previous post was sent to this ML only, not
including your email directly as a recipient. ;-)

=
FWIW, when I sent the message to "All",=C2=A0 bsd= forge had blocked it (550 5.0.0 REJECT, too much abuse from your host). If = this is an indication that my system is misbehaving, please let me know.
--
<= div>
Kevin Oberman, Part time kid her= der and retired Network Engineer
E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com
PGP Fingerp= rint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683
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