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Date:      Sat, 2 Jun 2012 21:20:34 +0200
From:      Joe Gain <joe.gain@gmail.com>
To:        Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com>
Cc:        "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>, questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Why am I, Still subscribed and reading this list ?
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On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
<m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Julian H. Stacey <jhs@berklix.com> wrote=
:
>
>> Jason Hellenthal wrote:
>> > Because... at some point it may return to normal without all the
>> > bikeshedding and, I run because, I don't run because.
>>
>> Agreed ! =A0Many replies were sent to Wrong lists.
>>
>> Original poster & respondents abused stable@ & questions@
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Cross posting 2 lists un-necessarily, despite:
>>
>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.htm=
l#ERESOURCES-MAIL
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"C.1.3 List Charters
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rules of the road:
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0No posting should be made=
 to more than 2
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0mailing lists, and only t=
o 2 when a clear
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0and obvious need ..."
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0There was a desire, as always, but no nee=
d. =A0(so I
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0removed cc: stable@ on this post, to avoi=
d this
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0post also breaking that rule, (on the bas=
is that
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0stable@ readership are more likely to alr=
eady know
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0about Not cross posting, & using the Righ=
t list,
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0as questions@ started as a target list to=
 point
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0clueless new users to, from /etc/motd. =
=A0(It was
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0expected as users grew experienced, they'=
d subscribe
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0other lists themed to their interests.)))
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Noise was emitted to lists with wrong remits.
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0advocacy@freebsd.org exists for promo. ta=
lk inc. re. wiki.
>>
>> Please read list remits, & conform to them, & subscribe appropriate list=
s.
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocac=
y
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"Furthering the Use of FreeBSD
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Share ideas and plan to increase the numb=
er of
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0companies and individuals using FreeBSD"
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"This is the mailing list for users of fr=
eebsd-stable.
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0the stable cvsup target is built from the=
 latest
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0official RELEASE with the addition of cri=
tical bug fixes."
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questio=
ns
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"This is the mailing list for questions a=
bout FreeBSD.
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0You should not send "how to" questions to=
 the
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0technical lists unless you consider the q=
uestion
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0to be pretty technical."
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Julian
>> --
>> Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich
>> http://berklix.com
>> =A0Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "=
> ".
>> =A0Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64,
>> quoted-printable.
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. =A0http://berklix.org/y=
ahoo/
>
>
>
> The question "Why are you using FreeBSD ?" was a very good one , but , in
> my opinion , other side "Why are you not using FreeBSD?" would be
> appropriate , because in engineering , everything for any subject is

I don't think these kinds of _very_ general questions are really
helpful and there
are a lot of them. I guess, because there are no sales representatives givi=
ng
people advice about FreeBSD, people feel more confident when they get some
advice from a mailing list about what sought of hardware people have used t=
o
successfully do some task or other. Especially, when this involves buying
something expensive.

But in general, why are you using/ not using operating system 'x' is not a =
good
question because there are so many variables and you can't compare the
results in any really conclusive way.

The best thing is to just try it, and anyway, *with FreeBSD the software it=
self
will not cost you any money*. Maybe you will be surprised, maybe you won't =
be.
I mean there is no single specific task that general purpose OSs like FreeB=
SD
are designed for.

>
> - Advantages
> - Disadvantages
>
> When "Disadvantages" is NOT evaluated sufficiently well , the results
> mostly will be unpredictable .

I think, it's fair to say that the results will be somewhat unpredictable, =
maybe
in a positive way, maybe not.

>
> Instead of corrupting the original thread , I wanted to help to cover the
> other side in parallel to the
> original question .
>
> If you think , my response is unconscious , here is the my subscription
> list to FreeBSD mailing lists :
>
>
> freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
> freebsd-announce@freebsd.org
> freebsd-chromium@freebsd.org
> freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
> freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org
> freebsd-current@freebsd.org
> freebsd-database@freebsd.org
> freebsd-doc@freebsd.org
> freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org
> freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org
> freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
> freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
> freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org
> freebsd-net@freebsd.org
> freebsd-performance@freebsd.org
> freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> freebsd-small@freebsd.org
> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
> freebsd-standards@freebsd.org
> freebsd-threads@freebsd.org
> freebsd-x11@freebsd.org
> freebsd-rc@freebsd.org
> freebsd-pf@freebsd.org
> freebsd-apache@freebsd.org
> freebsd-usb@freebsd.org
> freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org
> freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org
> freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org
> freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org
> freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org
> freebsd-office@freebsd.org
> freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org
>
>
> Thank you very much .
>
>
> Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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