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Date:      Sun, 31 May 2020 16:04:44 -0300
From:      "Dr. Rolf Jansen" <freebsd@cyclaero.com>
To:        Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: BeagleBone AI
Message-ID:  <1D278E6E-B9BC-42A7-BC71-9279BE19EFBF@cyclaero.com>
In-Reply-To: <845302190a78fdc46fac0f34326daad4496c7227.camel@freebsd.org>
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> Am 31.05.2020 um 14:04 schrieb Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>:
>=20
> On Fri, 2020-05-29 at 23:21 -0300, Dr. Rolf Jansen wrote:
>> ...
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>> First Question:
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>> What modern SBC with more than 1 I=C2=B2C bus and which can run =
FreeBSD 13++ would you suggest?
>>=20
>> ...
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>> Two more Questions:
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>> Is it reasonable to assume that FreeBSD would run on a BBAI in the =
future, let=E2=80=99s say in 2 to 3 years?
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>> Perhaps I could help porting FreeBSD to a BBAI. What would be the =
general steps?
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>>=20
>> Many thanks in advance for any suggestions, advices and =
clarifications.
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>> Best regards
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>> Rolf
>=20
> The only problem with the Beaglebone is that the TI linux developers
> are continually tinkering with their drivers and DTS source, and they
> seemingly don't care about the devicetree rules for maintaining
> compatibility, so freebsd tends to break on BB boards every time we
> import new DTS sources.

Yes, this is really annoying. For getting the BeagleBone Black working =
with 13-CURRENT, I need to replace the DTS at sys/gnu/dts/arm, which is =
currently v5.6, with v4.2 (r347365), and then rebuild the kernel.

> If you want to stick with armv7/32-bit stuff, I would say your best =
bet
> for long term freebsd support would be Allwinner or imx6.

My concern is not 32 or 64bit. These unit controllers will never ever =
run a desktop environment, so it won=E2=80=99t even come close to touch =
any 32bit memory limit. That said, 64bit is not exactly needed but would =
not harm either.

> I keep hearing mumbling about freebsd throwing all 32-bit support
> overboard in a future release.  I have no idea how serious any of that
> mumbling is, but if there's any truth to it at all, then switching to
> one of the low-cost well-supported arm64 boards, such as pine64, might
> be a better option.

Well, if longterm support for 32bit of FreeBSD is questionable, this =
would be a huge road block for the BeagleBone AI. I will also respond to =
your other message.

Best regards

Rolf




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