From owner-cvs-all Tue Apr 9 22:16: 2 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627A937B41C; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 22:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g3A5Foi00780; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 23:15:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3A5Fmc33876; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 23:15:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 23:15:48 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20020409.231548.56168135.imp@village.org> To: grog@FreeBSD.org Cc: phk@critter.freebsd.dk, jhb@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Feature removal without replacement From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20020410143519.B22430@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20020410095141.M9535@wantadilla.lemis.com> <2239.1018414793@critter.freebsd.dk> <20020410143519.B22430@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <20020410143519.B22430@wantadilla.lemis.com> "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" writes: : On Wednesday, 10 April 2002 at 6:59:53 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: : > In message <20020410095141.M9535@wantadilla.lemis.com>, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" w : > rites: : > : >> Why do we need to cut Uesrconfig out until there's some replacement? : > : > Suggest you revisit the cvs log for a blow by blow account. : : Which one? And why can't you summarize. Look at the config changes that moved things from being in a funky format to using the hints to get its config information, and the corresponding changes to various parts of the kernel. The structure that USERCONFIG was built on was torn down around it as the hints mechanism was added. : >> Specifically, what do people do when they're installing the system : >> from CD on an old ISA machine? It looks like they're stuck. : > : > They uses the loader and their hints file. : : Is that documented? This looks very much like hand-washing to me. It is as documented as the hints mechanism in current is documented. which is what makes it archane and prompted my archane comment. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message