From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 2 10:22:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D0CD0 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 10:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from eris.bzerk.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:980:18dd:1:192:168:179:45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCE4803 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 10:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eris.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eris.bzerk.org (8.14.6/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r32AMKOj029581 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Apr 2013 10:22:21 GMT (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by eris.bzerk.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r32AMKIe029580; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 10:22:20 GMT (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) X-Authentication-Warning: eris.bzerk.org: bulk set sender to mail25@bzerk.org using -f Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 10:22:20 +0000 From: Ruben de Groot To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Subject: Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture Message-ID: <20130402102220.GA28545@eris.bzerk.org> References: <944760435.20130401210118@serebryakov.spb.ru> <8638v9e22j.fsf@ds4.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AUTHD_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eris.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (eris.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 02 Apr 2013 10:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lev Serebryakov , FreeBSD Hackers , Eitan Adler , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav , Wojciech Puchar X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 10:22:35 -0000 On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 03:10:56AM -0700, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk typed: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote: > > > Wojciech Puchar writes: > > > Lev Serebryakov writes: > > > > It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some > > > > firmwares are 64-bit CPU. > > > don't know of any now in shops that are not > > > > http://soekris.com/products/net5501.html > > http://soekris.com/products/net6501.html > > > > DES > > -- > > Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav - des@des.no > > > > > I am NOT able to understand the merit of these products with respect to > their features and PRICES . They are extremely stable and robust. > It is possible to assemble much more cheaper full featured PC like systems > ( DDR3 memory , 64-bit capable processors , with a disadvantage about power > requirements ) . You can also get much bigger portions at MacDonald than what you get in a five star restaurant. Ruben