From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 11 14:16:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CECD37B719 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:16:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f2BMGSA49679 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG.AVP; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:16:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f2BMGRT49665; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:16:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (dhcp0.neland.dk [192.168.5.100]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.2/8.11.0) with SMTP id f2BMFxj80585; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:16:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <019501c0aa79$0e73aac0$6405a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: "Simon" , "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" , "Jeff Gray" References: <20010311214033.0DB1537B718@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: co-location model Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:17:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by ns.internet.dk id f2BMGRT49665 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm afraid to tell that it can be done with Linux... http://slashdot.org/articles/00/08/01/1226247.shtml In the lab, 41500 virtual linux'es has been run simultaneously under VMS on an IBM S/390. And mainframes don't fail. Ever. (Well, almost never (G&S: Pinafore)) Leif ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon" To: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" ; "Jeff Gray" Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 10:44 PM Subject: Re: co-location model > Can you setup a mainframe to run multiple instances of FreeBSD? i really doubt it... and what if that single mainframe fails > instead of few standalone servers? i'd probably stay away from something like that. > > -Simon > > On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:32:22 -0800 (PST), Jeff Gray wrote: > > >In thinking about the co-location model of many machines, whether 1U or > >bigger, one realizes that lots of space, lots of energy [I am writing from > >California], lots of iron and other materials are inefficiently consumed. > >Let alone late night trips to the server farm. > > > >Instead of co-location with lots of physical servers if someone were to setup > >a mainframe that provided, > > -multiple OS configurations and alternatives > > -centralized hardware management > > -centralized security management on the mainframe > > -flexible, reliable, scalable storage > > > >then space, energy, raw materials and I suspect major costs could be > >minimized. Late night trips to the server could be eliminated! > > > >My two questions. > >-Is this a reasonable long term model for ISPs and or server farms? > > > >-Does anyone offer this today at the scale of rack size bites of > >physical space? > > > > > >[I say mainframe only to emphasize extreme hardware and software > >reliability]. > > > >Interested to hear what the community thinks. > > > >Thanks > >jeff > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message