From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 27 03:26:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D5816A727 for ; Sat, 27 May 2006 03:26:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ca) Received: from orthanc.ca (orthanc.ca [209.89.70.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BB443D46 for ; Sat, 27 May 2006 03:26:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ca) Received: from [192.168.15.2] (d154-5-28-131.bchsia.telus.net [154.5.28.131]) (authenticated bits=0) by orthanc.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4R3QrPk022613; Fri, 26 May 2006 21:26:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ca) In-Reply-To: <4477C401.2080307@rogers.com> References: <20060527024407.GA2525@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <4477C401.2080307@rogers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <38C8392F-C345-41F7-A879-6C2F5D2C59F5@orthanc.ca> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lyndon Nerenberg Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 20:26:01 -0700 To: Mike Jakubik X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on orthanc.ca Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Steve Kargl Subject: Re: [RFC] Removal of Fortran from the base system X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 03:26:58 -0000 On May 26, 2006, at 8:14 PM, Mike Jakubik wrote: > Agreed, who the hell still uses Fortran? I have great gobs of RF design and analysis code that is written in F77 (and 66 for that matter). In the RF engineering field the Fortran versions of Spice and friends are still quite popular. And I know more than a handful of physicists who will never write a line of C code, and nor should they, since their existing Fortran tools are perfectly viable. A lot of these people rely on the system shipping a Fortran compiler -- they're scientists, not sysadmins. And believe me ... there IS a difference! (Now the physics guys would be tickled pink if the system compiler was upgraded to F95 or better ;-) --lyndon