From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 12:16:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741FB16A4CE for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:16:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lorna.circlesquared.com (host217-45-219-85.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.45.219.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8589843D6B for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:16:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Received: from circlesquared.com (localhost.circlesquared.com [127.0.0.1]) i6SCFe3f032354; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:15:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from peter@circlesquared.com) Message-ID: <410798EC.7010400@circlesquared.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:15:40 +0100 From: Peter Risdon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040611 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DK References: <20040728112715.47686.qmail@web41003.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20040728112715.47686.qmail@web41003.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installerpackage like this ??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:16:08 -0000 DK wrote: > --- Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >>All of these are available on FreeBSD too (except Mercury Mailserver, >>which is just another Win32 MTA that I don't know about but somehow feel >>reluctant to trust more than my Sendmail or Postfix installations). > > > Yes, but not as ONE nice Package: > eg: FreeBSD PORTS > apache+mod_perl-1.3.31 > apache+mod_ssl+ipv6-1.3.31+2.8.18_4 >[snip] Hi, You're probably aware of this already, but FreeBSD is developed collaboratively. I'm just a user, and have nothing at all to do with the project. There are a few things called meta-ports which install a load of stuff at once - there's one for installing an *instant workstation*, for example. If anyone had felt the need to produce one for the setup you're describing, or indeed that it would be a sensible thing to do, they would have done it. As a matter of fact, the PHP port has just been made even less like the way you'd like it to be - and for some excellent reasons, I now see. I didn't at first but I was wrong, not the port maintainer. You might step back a moment and reflect that you might be missing some very important points. The arguments you made are based on things that have, after all, been apparent to everyone always. FreeBSD is as it is by design, not negligence or backwardness. FreeBSD might well not be for you. Luckily, we can choose which operating system suits us best. But until you figure out why things are done this way with FreeBSD, and then consider the merits of this approach, you're not going to get anywhere with it. Regards, Peter.