From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jan 26 15: 6:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFC414E58 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:06:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@oldserver.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.105.241] (helo=propro) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12DbW4-0003HK-00; Wed, 26 Jan 2000 23:06:24 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 00:06:22 +0100 (CET) From: Marc Schneiders To: Wes Peters Cc: Jonathon McKitrick , chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/13644 In-Reply-To: <388F7A15.7A3E10FD@softweyr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, Wes Peters wrote: > Jonathon McKitrick wrote: [...] > > Actually, i just started learning VI, so maybe i'll try both at the same time. > > However, i haven't quite reached that level yet of being an advanced programmer. > > So, many of Emacs features will be lost on me. But, it is certainly worth a try, > > since someday i may need it. > > > > Yes, it makes more sense like you said to start a session at login and use it > > throughout the session. Maybe if i buy that book it will give me incentive. > > If much of your work on your computer consists of editing things, Emacs is a > good tool. If you edit things only occasionally, other editors may be as > useful and a bit faster to load. If you use X, aXe is pretty nice and is > quick enough to launch from a dock or something like that. > > > Do you use emacs, Xemacs, or some derivative? Version 19 or 20? > > I use GNU Emacs 20, mostly because my .emacs file has been customized for > GNU conventions over the years. If I were starting over, I'd probably pick > Xemacs instead. Most of the younger Emacs'ers around here use Xemacs. > I just happen to have bought an emacs book yesterday and read a bit. I have two things that I cannot get clear for myself: 1. Is it 'done' on BSD? The book gave me the idea that emacs is a real GNU thing, so much 'hallelujah' in it. I don't mind that, but wouldn't like to jump into learning it all, if it isn't really supported in BSD-circles. And I want to be politically correct of course :-) 2. Which version should I use/learn/configure? "Most younger ... use Xemacs." I'm 39. Does the fact that I still occasionally use WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS, because the ctrl and alt key-strokes [for notes, size e.g.] somehow come natural for me, suggest the non-X version? A third, now I'm at it: Does the Windows version (it is on the CD with the book) really work? Would be nice to use at work maybe, once I got used to it or maybe fond of it. -- Marc Schneiders marc@venster.nl marc@oldserver.demon.nl propro 11:56pm up 11 days, 23:45, load average: 2.64 2.19 2.06 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message