From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Apr 28 22:39:40 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA08864 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 22:39:40 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA08858 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 22:39:39 -0700 Received: (from phk@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id WAA24041; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 22:39:26 -0700 From: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-Id: <199504290539.WAA24041@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: What I'd *really like* for 2.0.5 To: nate@trout.sri.MT.net (Nate Williams) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 22:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199504290537.XAA06209@trout.sri.MT.net> from "Nate Williams" at Apr 28, 95 11:37:33 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 940 Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > All the probe messages irritate the hell out of me. The style is > > > inconsistent in many places and I still maintain that I do *NOT* want > > > to know about all the things it didn't find, I want to know about only > > > the things it did since.... > > > With the advent of userconfig, I'm for removing them. Now you can use > > userconfig to see what drivers you have in your kernel. > > > > Lets kill them now. > > I disagree. On bootup you don't have access to userconfig, and it's a > very useful debugging tool to find out what's a kernel's been compiled > with to see if you're it's a driver bug or a hardware misconfiguration. Nate are you sleeping ? Have you tried "boot: /kernel -c" lately ??? userconfig IS ONLY available at booup ! -- Poul-Henning Kamp -- TRW Financial Systems, Inc. 'All relevant people are pertinent' && 'All rude people are impertinent' => 'no rude people are relevant'