From nobody Wed Oct 26 16:24:29 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4MyDfb3Cwzz4gZJ4 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 16:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crest@rlwinm.de) Received: from mail.rlwinm.de (mail.rlwinm.de [138.201.35.217]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4MyDfZ4FxWz3WQ5 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 16:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crest@rlwinm.de) Received: from [IPV6:2001:9e8:958:5000:3c0c:4b24:172a:e2ce] (unknown [IPv6:2001:9e8:958:5000:3c0c:4b24:172a:e2ce]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-384) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.rlwinm.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 14D8130772 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 16:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <827fd52f-b488-aed0-0d4e-b6cbb4b8e580@rlwinm.de> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 18:24:29 +0200 List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.4.0 Subject: Re: Switching from sendmail to Dragonfly Mail Agent by default To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org References: <20221013130533.n33j6fziwkqnjppc@aniel.nours.eu> Content-Language: en-US From: Jan Bramkamp In-Reply-To: <20221013130533.n33j6fziwkqnjppc@aniel.nours.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4MyDfZ4FxWz3WQ5 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of crest@rlwinm.de designates 138.201.35.217 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=crest@rlwinm.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:138.201.0.0/16, country:DE]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arch@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[rlwinm.de]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arch@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 13.10.22 15:05, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > Hello everyone, > > As of today, on a default FreeBSD setup, a mailer agent is configured in order > to be able to distribute locally emails (from crontab for example) and/or for > relaying those emails. This role has been served by a stripped down version of > sendmail up to now. By stripped down, I mean it is built without the support > for feature that would make it a full featured MTA, like no support for ldap. > > Long time ago we have imported Dragonfly Mail Agent, a minimalistic MTA born > within the Dragonfly Project, covering exactly those needs and only those. > > It has matured slowly over the time and we believe we have addressed all the > major issues reported preventing it from being the default. > > For FreeBSD 14 we would like to activate it by default. > > It means: > - install by default mailer.conf from dma (and install the one from sendmail > in /usr/share/example/sendmail) > - activate sendmail_enable=NONE by default in /etc/default/rc.conf > - make mailwrappe fallback on dma. > > If noone brings an obvious blocker, this change will happen in the next couple > of weeks! Thanks for touching this touchy subject.