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Date:      Sat, 8 Dec 2001 11:45:18 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Dave Rufino <dr263@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>, <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: statefulness in character device drivers 
Message-ID:  <Pine.SOL.4.33.0112081142390.9831-100000@green.csi.cam.ac.uk>
In-Reply-To: <49036.1007811221@critter.freebsd.dk>

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On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

> In message <Pine.SOL.4.33.0112081058220.29494-100000@orange.csi.cam.ac.uk>, Dav
> e Rufino writes:
> >
> >
> >On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> >
> >> >They are talking about "per-open", not "per-fd-instance" data,
> >> >which could easily exclude dup, dup2, and fcntl(f_DUPFD).
> >>
> >> If you don't include dup/dup2/fnctl in your accounting, you
> >> can only reliably tell "first open", "another open", "some close"
> >> and "final close".  You an modulate this with the pid, but you
> >> still have no idea what is going on in any amount of detail.
> >
> >Speaking for myself, first open and final close would be all I need for
> >the nvidia driver - though i'm sure tracking dup/dup2/fcntl would be
> >preferable in the general case.
>
> first open/last close has been the UNIX way for decades...

Oops, I meant it shouldn't be necessary to be notified of  dup()ed fds
in the device driver, which is probably not what you were driving at
anyway :/

David


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