From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 21 14:36:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD36A37B401; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:36:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-146.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D823543E3B; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:36:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256AA66C61; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:36:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 878D5129D; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:36:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:36:08 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: David Schultz Cc: John Baldwin , Terry Lambert , current@FreeBSD.ORG, "M. Warner Losh" , Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: Why isn't NOCLEAN the default? (was: Re: Cross-Development with NetBSD) Message-ID: <20021121223608.GA20967@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <3DDD2CB8.7E080912@mindspring.com> <20021121220220.GB6062@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DocE+STaALJfprDB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021121220220.GB6062@HAL9000.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:02:20PM -0800, David Schultz wrote: > Thus spake John Baldwin : > > Make release is a very poor example b/c make release goes to great > > efforts to create a clean-room environment for a release. make > > rerelease is quite helpful though and does do what you want to > > restart a previous release. :) Also, make buildworld -DNOCLEAN > > isn't too shabby, though if I could do make TARGET_ARCH=3Dalpha > > everything I would prefer that. >=20 > I have long wondered why NOCLEAN isn't the default. There seem to > be a few cases where it doesn't DTRT for kernel builds, but it > seems a bit conservative to make incremental world builds require > that an undocumented variable be defined. Any ideas? It often causes problems during upgrades (but is usually fine when just rebuilding a non-updated tree) Kris --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE93V/XWry0BWjoQKURAh2TAKCyPv7wCXotyg5VJ+jfif7NHXOytQCgmTug UbDvnEHrBooNwePCVw7pgQw= =Rl8f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DocE+STaALJfprDB-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message