From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 22 21:26:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C8A1065672; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:26:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from mail.zoral.com.ua (mx0.zoral.com.ua [91.193.166.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7003B8FC08; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:26:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (root@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua [10.1.1.148]) by mail.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p1MLQ0Pl032615 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:26:01 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p1MLQ0AI062605; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:26:00 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: (from kostik@localhost) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p1MLQ0QR062604; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:26:00 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:26:00 +0200 From: Kostik Belousov To: Ben Kaduk Message-ID: <20110222212600.GG78089@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: <201102221738.p1MHchsd016185@svn.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Hl7iIDUZZE9gOHs4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-Hackers , Bruce Cran Subject: Re: svn commit: r218953 - stable/8/usr.sbin/sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:26:05 -0000 --Hl7iIDUZZE9gOHs4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 01:06:38PM -0500, Ben Kaduk wrote: > [replying to the MFC that triggered the connection] >=20 > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: > > Author: brucec > > Date: Tue Feb 22 17:38:43 2011 > > New Revision: 218953 > > URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/218953 > > > > Log: > > =9AMFC r218840: > > > > =9ARemove the quotas option from the Startup Services menu. > > =9AGENERIC has no support for quotas so this option has no effect. >=20 > Do you know why GENERIC does not have quota support enabled? I note > that the Debian/kFreeBSD folk have enabled quota support for the > kernel they ship: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D608995 >=20 > In that report, emaste@ is quoted as saying: > > If you mean "kFreeBSD should ship with a quota-enabled kernel" then I'd > > say go for it. The reason we don't have it on in upstream FreeBSD is > > largely historical; enabling quotas used to require additional locking > > that caused performance and other issues. The additional locking is now > > not required, and it's just that nobody has stepped in to turn them on. >=20 > If you believe everything you read on the internet, "In order to > achieve a modern operating system, the quota support should be active > by default, not achieved only after compilation of a custom kernel." >=20 > Is there more to "stepping in and turning them on" than just the > one-line change? I promise to enable UFS quotas in GENERIC in one week unless anybody objects now. --Hl7iIDUZZE9gOHs4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1kKegACgkQC3+MBN1Mb4gfpQCgjMiTff37Oxv/J4wC2o+XuZpw 0ycAoJTefNzu36dpTF7y2dfZshQjnb0A =Z80l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Hl7iIDUZZE9gOHs4--