From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 21 01:06:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94AE16A41F for ; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 01:06:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) Received: from opusnet.com (mail.opusnet.com [209.210.200.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5068543D46 for ; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 01:06:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) Received: from localhost.localhost [70.98.246.232] by opusnet.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id A39719CB00D2; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:06:31 -0700 Received: from localhost.localhost (localhost.localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localhost (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7L17okA019586; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:07:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localhost (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j7L17emo019585; Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:07:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garys@opusnet.com) To: Diane Bruce References: <4306EAB7.4090001@skyforge.net> <20050820212745.GA2998@night.db.net> <1515C667-4333-4147-BA3E-E04C2ED8382A@HiWAAY.net> <20050820231549.GB3909@night.db.net> From: garys@opusnet.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:07:40 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20050820231549.GB3909@night.db.net> (Diane Bruce's message of "Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:15:49 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.17 (Jumbo Shrimp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDLinux OS X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 01:06:40 -0000 Diane Bruce writes: > I personally can't be bothered wasting my time putting a bsd userland > on top of a linux kernel, but I would like to see RMS scream. There goes > his claim to "Gnu/linux", as Linus himself last I read, was indifferent > to the license. Linus has expressed his preference for viral, no-derivation-without-payment-in-the- form-of-cross-licensing licenses; i.e., copyleft licenses, e.g., FSF GPL. He likened the freedom of the BSDL and the public domain to anarchy. In reply to other msgs: Based on a quick reading of the web site linked from www.MirBSD.de, it's formally named "MirOS BSD" and basically an OpenBSD with a Linux kernel, but there is or will be other versions. GPL'd software in base FreeBSD includes a lot of code and it would be hard to replace. I don't know if RMS calls it a "GNU system". A fairly complete list: addr2line (a binutil) ar (a binutil) as (a binutil) as (in gnu/usr.bin) gawk bc cc cpio cvs dc dialog(1) and libdialog diff diff3 doc (a binutil) g++ and libg++ gasp (a binutil) gawk (see awk) gcc and libgcc gdb (a binutil) gdbreplay (a binutil) gdbserver (a binutil) gperf grep groff gtar gzip (including gzexe, zdiff, zforce, zgrep, zmore, znew) ld (a binutil) ld (in gnu/usr.bin) libbfd (a binutil) libbinutils (a binutil) libg2c (g2c program & manpage in a port) libgcc_r (no manpage?) libgmp (no manpage?) libiberty (a binutil) libmp (no manpage?) libobjc (no manpage?) libopcodes (a binutil) libreadline (no manpage?) libregex, but not regex(3) manpage libstdc++ code (no manpage?) man mdoc = groff_mdoc manpage nm (a binutil) objcopy (a binutil) objdump (a binutil) patch perl ptx ranlib (a binutil) rcs readelf (a binutil) sdiff send-pr size (a binutil) sort strings (a binutil) strip (a binutil) texinfo update.sh (a binutil) uucp whatis(1) & apropos(1) (share code and manpage, manpage not FSF)