From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 21:03:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 288AC37B427; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 21:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B9C43FA3; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 21:03:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6Q43BFL079817; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 22:03:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 22:02:59 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030725.220259.54450614.imp@bsdimp.com> To: obrien@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20030725205806.GB39268@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030724185933.GC85582@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030724120652.B33961@xorpc.icir.org> <20030725205806.GB39268@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Things to remove from /rescue X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 04:03:25 -0000 In message: <20030725205806.GB39268@dragon.nuxi.com> "David O'Brien" writes: : On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 12:06:52PM -0700, Luigi Rizzo wrote: : > On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 11:59:33AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: : > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 08:25:32PM -0400, Mike Makonnen wrote: : > ... : > > > base system. IMO, /rescue should be the absolute essentials _only_. : > > > Instead of theorizing reasons why someone might need ipfw and friends, : > > > why don't we wait until we get a bug report about a specific situation : > > > in which it was needed before we put it back in. : > > : > > Thank you for expressing this so well. I do think we should wait for : > > PR's telling real experiences rather than theorizing so much in the "what : > > if"'s. : > : > then just nuke everything from /rescue and waif for PR's... :) : : {\sarcasm : Or just go back to /[s]bin being statically linked and create : /[s]bin.dynamic and those that want that can put it first in their : path. : } cruncgen'd binary uses a lot less space than a static directory full of copies of libc. Warner