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Date:      Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:31:52 -0600 (CST)
From:      Licia <licia@o-o.org>
To:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
Cc:        advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Women in FreeBSD ( was Re: Is there a reseller program?)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9902050921180.18822-100000@o-o.org>
In-Reply-To: <36BA340E.BFE4E9B5@softweyr.com>

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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Wes Peters wrote:
> Licia wrote:
> > I tend to lurk so much primarily because I've had enough extremely
> > unpleasant experiences regarding technical material in other forums (IRC for
> > example) to make me very leary of exposing myself to such behavior again.
> 
> Ugh, IRC.  I gave that up about 4 months after it started; it became 
> painfully aware that it was just an extension of the Compu$serve "cb
> channels," with about the same level of maturity.  And this was in 
> 1994 -- I don't even want to imagine how much worse it is now.  ;^)
> 

I've left off and on but usually returned in the hopes that I could find a
group of intelligent, mature people to chat with.  I've since given up hope
and discontinued my use of IRC and have gone so far as to remove all my IRC
software.

I now spend the majority of my online time on my own telnet BBS, where I can
be assured that spam, trolls, etc, simply will not be accepted. :)

> > The result is I tend not to make comments in the technical lists, unless it's
> > something I feel fairly sure I will not be maltreated over.
> 
> You need an attitude adjustment - who's to say the opinion of the idiot
> at the other end of the socket connection has any validity AT ALL, let
> alone more validity than yours?
> 

Oh, that's not how I feel at all.  I've been programming since I was 10 years
old (that's 18 years for those who are counting :) ) and I'm fairly confident
about my skills and I take the time to reason out my opinions and ideas.  I
tend to lurk to avoid abuse. 

 If I am confident that something I'm considering saying will not result in
more abuse than I feel the issue is worth, I post.  If not, I don't.   I post
as much as I do on advocacy, simply because I feel strongly about what needs
to be done in these areas, and I've discovered that I quite enjoy the work
involved.

(for those who are counting, I have given away my entire original order of
1,250 FreeBSD pens and re-ordered! :) )

I have noticed that the lists are much less prone to that type of behavior
than IRC, but old habits die hard, and it will be a while I am sure before I
am completely comfortable with things.  Additionally, I am a bit more active
on the FreeBSD Applications Developer mailing list.  If someone posts on
there, I most likely -will- reply to them, as applications are currently my
main area of interest.

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