From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 10 13:07:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFDFE8C1A1 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 13:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from bca5.email-od.com (bca5.email-od.com [207.246.239.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5927E704D8 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 13:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1512911237; x=1515503237; h=x-thread-info:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=83/CF11fCH17+erMKO2pZAHnl0Z7yhv02QnshUrIfd0=; b=KfzLfhbCXJ8WG37NJwPuW0C1pBU4mwnpllR63qboSOp4ftgUGZ/iLJi5PXqaK6INueLcEaFuMaecepd4oZexpeP7rhYEXniiesZ7eAm8Ph8DGHG9S1xkURXmnsXHgi9ZE37UjGQAeCsi9tEHabveFh135SLk+JYDNLKzGyVpQCk= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi44MTAwMDAwMDYzNmJkYS5mcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9ucz1mcmVlYnNkLm9yZw== Received: from r5.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r5.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com [52.204.195.176]) by bca2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 10 Dec 2017 08:07:06 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r5.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 10 Dec 2017 08:07:03 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.89 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1eO1Js-0003nB-V6; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 13:07:00 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 13:07:00 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: Restoring sc console look and feel with vt Message-Id: <20171210130700.3fd3ecce0b45b567c9fd9509@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20170905151245.f592508c.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20170905151245.f592508c.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.6.0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 13:07:14 -0000 On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 15:12:45 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > As more and more systems got updated, vt has become the default > console driver, and sc and modern X seem to heavily collide, so > there is no way back. However, even though vt basically works, > the modes it automatically chooses are far from usable from my > point of view: The text is far too small to be conveniently read. > Also the colors seem to be "wrong" and of low contrast (compared > to sc, that is, on the same hardware). > > The "just works" feeling somehow has been lost... :-( I stayed out of this thread because my system doesn't have the effect you describe, the console font is nice and big (80x29 on my 1280x1024 monitor) but a quick dig around didn't reveal any reason for me being so blessed. I've stumbled across that reason now. My ancient nVidia ION hardware is supported by the old nVidia driver that doesn't speak KMS. Without KMS the display stays in vt 640x480 mode and seems to find a decently usable font by default and I can flip between consoles and X with no problems. It seems that KMS is the problem rather than vt. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith