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Subject: Re: IDT processors?
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ALPHA, get that freebsd port done!


On Sun, 9 Nov 1997, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

> intel stinks, period.
> First the Pentium FPU bug, then the PII and PPro FPU bug (anyone besides
> me know about this?) and now any server out there running shell is
> vulnerable to DOS from some dumbass with gcc and the ability to paste from
> a webpage into thier telnet terminal?
> 
> AMD has a bug with systems with greater than 64 megs of ram
> With Cyrix chips you're lucky if the damn thing doesn't smolder through
> your motherboard.
> 
> plus with the baby wintels they just dfon't have enough testing behind
> them to see if they have any esoteric bugs like the pentium or worse.
> 
> sorry for the rant, anyone know where  can get a bug free chip? someone
> has to be making them... :)
> 
> -Alfred
> 
> > 
> > What/Who is IDT? I heard about some So. CA startup company using the 
> > SGS/Thompson Fab. Is that them? 
> > 
> > I really doubt the contingent that is affected by this bug would be 
> > likely to trust a no-name chip. The whole point is reliability...
> > 
> > I would not put mission critial servers on AMD K6 or any Cyrix. There is 
> > no vestal virgin in the X86 market. Intel is still the best of the bunch 
> > for reliability. <Note to self: Raise flame shields, now!>
> > 
> > Kevin
> > 
> 
>