From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 10 22:06:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08D2134E for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 22:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from keltia.net (cl-90.mrs-01.fr.sixxs.net [IPv6:2a01:240:fe00:59::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AEF56F60 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 22:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.39] (foret.keltia.net [78.232.116.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: roberto) by keltia.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D779452AD; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 23:05:58 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: removing bdes.. From: Ollivier Robert X-Mailer: iPad Mail (12B466) In-Reply-To: <20150210191329.GL3698@zxy.spb.ru> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 23:05:57 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <964BFD22-E04A-40A4-9F82-BEB1AD97EB5A@keltia.net> References: <20150209181502.GF1953@funkthat.com> <20150210151812.GB67127@zxy.spb.ru> <20150210172039.GA1071@reks> <20150210175240.GD67127@zxy.spb.ru> <20150210175852.GV1953@funkthat.com> <20150210180906.GI3698@zxy.spb.ru> <20150210181916.GY1953@funkthat.com> <20150210183638.GK3698@zxy.spb.ru> <20150210190132.GB1953@funkthat.com> <20150210191329.GL3698@zxy.spb.ru> To: Slawa Olhovchenkov Cc: "arch@FreeBSD.org" , John-Mark Gurney X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 22:06:05 -0000 > Hmm, as I reminder FreeBSD motto is "tools, not policies". > If tools work as expected -- all OK. It is also some lines of code no one want to maintain, providing a false sen= se of security, what's the point? > Deny insecure crypto algorithm? Why don't force to use stong crypto > algorithm in all places (force disk, swap and memory encryption)? > Deny unencrypted network connection? > Deny unencrypted arhive? That's besides the point, we are not here to keep old code for the sake of i= t, esp. Since it will be a port. We obsolete old code all the time you know= . I'd say that uucp was more useful than bdes and we still removed it.=20 Why making so big a fuss? --=20 Ollivier Robert=