From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 23 17:33:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001F037B401 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 17:33:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from espresso.bsdmike.org (espresso.bsdmike.org [65.39.129.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77AE043F85 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 17:33:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@espresso.bsdmike.org) Received: by espresso.bsdmike.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 915349C81; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:18:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:18:45 -0400 From: Mike Barcroft To: Tim Kientzle Message-ID: <20030423201845.C36743@espresso.bsdmike.org> References: <200304231644.50685.cbiffle@safety.net> <3EA72D85.4030205@acm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EA72D85.4030205@acm.org>; from kientzle@acm.org on Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 05:19:17PM -0700 Organization: The FreeBSD Project cc: Adrian cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 1Jan 70 -- FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE + Current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 00:33:30 -0000 Tim Kientzle writes: > This has been discussed on this list several > times: those processes are all started > before the kernel has initialized the time. > > Because FreeBSD has to read the disk > before it can know whether the hardware clock > is in UTC or local time, it's hard to really > do much better than this. (I suppose you > could edit 'ps' to display such times > as '-'; that might be less misleading.) ...or the kernel could edit the processes once it has a clock available. Best regards, Mike Barcroft