From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Jul 12 08:54:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB91999B8C for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@xtaz.co.uk) Received: from mail.xtaz.uk (tao.xtaz.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:202::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 669BA121B for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:54:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@xtaz.co.uk) Received: by mail.xtaz.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2A48C20AEE8C; Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:54:51 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:54:51 +0100 From: Matt Smith To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Will 10.2 also ship with a very stale NTP? Message-ID: <20150712085451.GA1284@xtaz.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matt Smith , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20150710235810.GA76134@rwpc16.gfn.riverwillow.net.au> <20150712032256.GB19305@satori.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150712032256.GB19305@satori.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:54:56 -0000 On Jul 11 23:22, Chris Nehren wrote: >On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 09:58:11 +1000, John Marshall wrote: >> It's me again with my annual NTP whinge. > >The answer to the perennial "will release $foo ship with old / insecure >/ otherwise deficient $bar?" is still "install $bar from ports". > I completely agree with this, however my NTP whinge is that the NTP port needs to have its own RC init script that is independant of the base. If you use WITHOUT_NTP=yes in /etc/src.conf to remove the base version and just use the port then there is no RC script. You have to copy the version from /usr/src/etc/rc.d/ntp into /usr/local/etc/rc.d. This should be fixed. I guess this wouldn't be too difficult to do. I said six months ago that I might look at submitting a patch to do this, maybe I should actually do it. -- Matt