From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 19 18:01:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9219316A4E2 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A0143D5A for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:01:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9JI1JFt067884; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:01:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: Mike Meyer Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:56:44 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <45351E55.000003.14882@webmail11.yandex.ru> <200610191025.29016.jhb@freebsd.org> <17719.45210.731064.703629@bhuda.mired.org> In-Reply-To: <17719.45210.731064.703629@bhuda.mired.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610191356.44940.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:01:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/2050/Thu Oct 19 03:58:33 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: video card for amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:01:44 -0000 On Thursday 19 October 2006 13:06, Mike Meyer wrote: > > Because our kernel doesn't yet provide all the features the driver needs. > > But it does for the i386? That seems really strange... For good performance with i386 and PCI-e it needs the changes on i386 as well, but amd64 needs it at a more basic level. > > I've added some of them, but mroe stuff is needed. Nvidia sent out an > > e-mail a while back listing the things they need as far as kernel support. > > Given their willingness to do a driver and my interactions with both > > ATI (in the past) and Nvidia, I'd say that Nvidia supports FreeBSD much > > more than ATI at this point. Note that ATI only opened up their documents > > for the older R2xx cards under an NDA to developers working for a company > > that was under contract to develop a driver, not out of the goodness of their > > heart. To my knowledge, Nvidia is not providing a FreeBSD driver due to a > > commercial contract, but closer to "out of the goodness of their heart." > > Where did the docs for the R3xx and R4xx cards come from? They didn't > get 3d support, but they at least got better support than the nvidia > cards. I wasn't aware that they even had docs, but were reverse engineering it and/or depending on the R2xx docs, since 2d interfaces tends to change a lot less (and be simpler) than 3d. -- John Baldwin