From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 22 20:00:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA22250 for current-outgoing; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 20:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA22179 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 20:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA07445; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 12:23:47 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199604230253.MAA07445@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: socks support native in freebsd? To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 12:23:47 +0930 (CST) Cc: pst@shockwave.com, current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199604222344.QAA18180@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Apr 22, 96 04:44:00 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert stands accused of saying: > > Socks functionality should be implemented via an IP tunnel; > preferrably in a user space "socksd" process. This is total crap. How can you possibly implement what Socks does using a "tunnel"? Socks provides a standards-friendly means of hiding unroutable hosts behind a routed firewall. It provides healthy amounts of logging, and good configuration flexibility. > It is a mistake to rebuild "telnet, ftp, et al" to achieve > functionality that belongs at the transport layer, not in the > applications. The functionality is correctly implemented in the _library_ functions that telnet, ftp et. al call. Incorporating Socks proxy support in the system libraries would instantly Socksify _all_ of the system, including any ports built, as well as Perl and so forth. Given the popularity of firewalls these days, this would be a Big Plus. > This would also fix the OBA (Only Binary Available) problem with > trying to use Netscape or Nettrek clinets against a socks server. ...except that Netscape (at the least) already supports Socks, and in fact goes so far as to support making TCP DNS queries so that a UDP proxy isn't required. > Terry Lambert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[