Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2024 21:23:36 +0100 (CET) From: henrichhartzer@tuta.io To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net>, FreeBSD stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Release Engineering Team <re@freebsd.org>, Freebsd Reproducibility <freebsd-reproducibility@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: kern.version and uname -v Message-ID: <Nnjon8O--3-9@tuta.io> In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfqnCnBmF49YTzkESQfiheS30Rqp20A0GUoNTLcRvQNXjA@mail.gmail.com> References: <c7d140b1-8d47-ab7f-c27a-0f3eb3f1b599@grosbein.net> <CANCZdfrPLsZiVznsw3mkMz_2FOc=4kjy7R20ouUFgtTdbgQGWg@mail.gmail.com> <bfbf2da2-52c8-ed76-bfeb-e39eefb1bd76@grosbein.net> <CANCZdfqnCnBmF49YTzkESQfiheS30Rqp20A0GUoNTLcRvQNXjA@mail.gmail.com>
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I personally feel that building releases reproducibly is quite important. H= ow can we trust the current 14.0-RELEASE images? Would be nice to be able t= o build them locally and know they are the same. What do we need to do to make sure that 14.1-RELEASE is built reproducibly? Thanks! PS: It looks like freebsd-reproducibility@ may have some issues? Jan 9, 2024, 03:29 by imp@bsdimp.com: > > > On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 7:17=E2=80=AFPM Eugene Grosbein <> eugen@grosbein.= net> > wrote: > >> 09.01.2024 4:16, Warner Losh wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 1:58=E2=80=AFPM Eugene Grosbein <>> eugen@grosb= ein.net>> <mailto:>> eugen@grosbein.net>> >> wrote: >> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0For ages, "uname -v" output (sligtly polished sysct= l kern.version) had the following format: >> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0$ uname -v >> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0FreeBSD 13.2-STABLE 36a037f15 KERNELIDENT >> > >> > This is the reproducible format: only include data that is identical f= rom build to build. It's relatively recent (FreeBSD 11 maybe) >> > >> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Where KERNELIDENT is GENERIC for x86 distribution m= edia. >> > >> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0But now: >> > >> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0# uname -v >> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE #0 releng/14.0-n265380-f9716ee= e8ab4: Fri Nov 10 05:51:26 UTC 2023=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0root@releng1.nyi.fre= ebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386.i386/sys/GENERIC >> > >> > This is the old, non-reproducible format. We've had both formats for s= everal major releases, and this format, with various tweaks as we went from= CVS -> svn -> git. >> > >> > Maybe the problem here is that in the run up to 14.0 we didn't turn on= reproducible builds? >> >> You meant opposite, did you? >> > > I don't think so. The quoted value is the old WITHOUT_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILDS= format. We forgot to turn on WITH_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILDS in the branch before= the release. > > Warner >
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