From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Feb 23 11:56:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5AB37B401 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 11:56:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from olmec.nighttide.net (jasper.nighttide.net [207.5.141.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7CB43F93 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 11:56:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from darren@nighttide.net) Received: from olmec.nighttide.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olmec.nighttide.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1NJuBC9044577 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 14:56:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darren@nighttide.net) Received: from localhost (darren@localhost) by olmec.nighttide.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h1NJuBji044574 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 14:56:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darren@nighttide.net) X-Authentication-Warning: olmec.nighttide.net: darren owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 14:56:11 -0500 (EST) From: Darren Henderson To: FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: was this really necessary? [ was Re: The FreeBSD Jive Copyright ] In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20030223123659.01965b20@threespace.com> Message-ID: References: <00bc01c2d93e$452d1f60$0502000a@sentinel> <4.3.2.7.2.20030221181620.01b7ded8@threespace.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20030223123659.01965b20@threespace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Chip Morton wrote: > To all others who responded in favor of the humor or in defense of the > individual's right to free speech, I believe you've missed the point > entirely. The jive filter isn't based on a dialect; it's based on a > centuries old stereotype of African-American speech. The content of the "jive" was as much a dialect as any other popular vernacular is for its time. Its certainly not based of a centuries old stereotype. Its more recent then hippie/flower child speak, beatnik, etc. And its no different then the vernacular of present day MTV, hip-hop, or club crowd (insert any subculture here that you like [subculture being a component of the whole culture not a diminutive]). ______________________________________________________________________ Darren Henderson darren@nighttide.net Help fight junk e-mail, visit http://www.cauce.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message