From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 8 22:49:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4E816A420 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:49:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D700643D45 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:49:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t12so8332wxc for ; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:49:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ICOmxs4sqz8dx7cVib8D4eKyDC+9JE5BVeqlBmDsvZL2cTuNKthrlucwXvutYgTgjvc/U/F0Q7+wnNNsuO75Bs5+xUo+6iYfbv/T4Kr3aVX4TcojUivXR15ThHL13vqZ11SKSbjKY8MzSEk1+FYh5v6nysTuVQ4Nr3X2TpRX+54= Received: by 10.70.11.14 with SMTP id 14mr3887878wxk; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:49:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.58.15 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Feb 2006 14:49:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 16:49:47 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060208204359.GA19830@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <7.0.1.0.2.20060208202634.0211cea8@broadpark.no> <20060208204359.GA19830@thought.org> Cc: Subject: Re: A script for poets X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 22:49:48 -0000 On 2/8/06, Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 08:29:21PM +0100, Kristian Vaaf wrote: > > Again with my script requests, this time I'm wondering if anybody > > has ever felt like writing a shell script that makes it easy to write > > rhymes, > > poems or just make up funny lines. As below, but textproc/dadadodo is about it so far as meaningfulness in computer generated text can get. > > This may dovetail into something I was actively working on > several years ago: a C/C++ program that took unmetered text > as input and output N-syllabic lines as output. > . . . Quite the task, that. Reading Spenser, Shakespeare, and older metrical and rhyming poetry can give you an indication of how difficult even the bland, mechanical regurgiation of poetry can be: Most words ending in -ed have one more syllable than we usually enunciate. Room and Rome can rhyme. Wawain, Gawain, Gawaine are exactly the same person. Most of this can be scripted around, double entries in the syllabary for possible pronunciations and known obscure rhymes, etc. Still leaves no way to innovate structure that's not coded in. Anyway, this gets into AI, and as jwz points out, most of modern AI research is fairly intellectually dishonest. -- --