From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Oct 19 16:32:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49586E3FCD2 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:32:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbeeble@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD3416FCCE for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbeeble@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id u138so17142801wmu.5 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 09:32:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=V/JjpKG+PWs1SO44jfpWNGlUJ3wimJDk4JBh66LWvBo=; b=rHKOmc0bdWHeb72r00ABduc6JhJdBoyzkx7CiWfiSvoqL7Pp4QpKJgM6+I1rGjFsUb vO/3zytQJVMUTH6EZzFLUSyzK+iSSwnFtB+wB+86zqjXFAs9FpXp/M8OdGOKPz0u/hVD an4zfA6yNIK2SfSL9yIvs2vZRpVwr3xQiD+O3HnhaJrKVWf1+55ra4QhyueJbq3Z0INt DFanW9LXL1fNgrAIqNr+p+EWyciRef2aqPSWsnkWgZf8maeI/tcAOB1+mphHVir4jytP ZDbf6vbP1zuD6/1IED6Nt/CQSYMi/YkMZ6r41I4eMDY688HmZqgy+ymmihp8O9SW2BBQ V95g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=V/JjpKG+PWs1SO44jfpWNGlUJ3wimJDk4JBh66LWvBo=; b=jjE2/Sbun/XCSmyfSUc1HevBx83Vrk0h92wQU0C0jO23+KwD3dpSE2f8PMBwbjiybw k4oMQoyk5J9SdenwvnwAbYn3ol9HcURNRN2Q8pz8yKQ7o3zdlzZqcZFhxPzFUeaYdVIJ NThD680TFzgeTrUIQ8cnK3aXoRhvpBDjUjJGnBqMe+t9unFZrAQhsIq1XVj8PhhqOgfQ ftES7YlHEkgUPPrsqXJ08WLX6ugspzu/H/TLRmeAwx6rLeyBATDxqZNVy9xKh6eHYNkr RGpVGjzX2XNr0K/NMUrYr+uILAwNHwc+efKuZjXGxZ42yxo86cZ7N/sBPV0k+n4xjZVG kq1A== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaVagSYgJo25a8ZN/ttc39xHM8kUiqYevDzOXxlKRoU9SYnSy3Pg wSa84GqXHlMc6ztBds1cbkF5anhx7s+3GTt9VA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+RpUgsrN1ss2X40JiLUQahxSrLGWkAlm8MdQukM+Q0eM3G3n5BCE4TVwzEKp9PUR8lWypstzyUa2I3vSXA5YR0= X-Received: by 10.80.139.65 with SMTP id l59mr3111559edl.187.1508430719071; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 09:31:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.189.139 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2017 09:31:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Zaphod Beeblebrox Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:31:58 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: We do serial differently. To: Bob Bishop Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 16:32:01 -0000 On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 6:03 AM, Bob Bishop wrote: > > All implementations of virtualised serial ports should (IMHO) provide a > software =E2=80=98breakout box=E2=80=99 which is the only sure way of dia= gnosing this sort > of problem. > > netgraph for serial ports?