From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Feb 1 10:37: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB6537B65D for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:36:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14OObD-000O4f-00 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:36:51 +0000 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f11Iaoo77181 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:36:50 GMT (envelope-from jcm) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:36:50 +0000 From: j mckitrick To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: software development tools - microsoft and unix Message-ID: <20010201183650.C76922@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It seems if there is one thing Microsoft does well, it is providing powerful development tools. If you ignore the fact that they use proprietary language extensions, what is the problem with these tools? They have taken the industry by storm, and even Kdevelop has tried to clone the Visual studio look and feel. What have I missed? Is there any real flaw in the tools that explains why similar tools have not appeared as open source in the unix world, or am I just unaware of them? Are there any unix tools that are evolving as quickly, that allow easy creation of COM objects, GUIs, etc.? I am sure someone will argue that they produce bloated code, but it appears that really is not an issue anymore. It seems almost every developer uses these standard tools, and the code size has become accepted. jcm -- o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o | "You can't have everything. Where would you put it?" - Steven Wright | o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message