From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Apr 13 1:55: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mta06bw.bigpond.com (mta06bw.bigpond.com [139.134.6.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8DE37B405 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2002 01:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MICHAEL2 ([144.135.24.78]) by mta06bw.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 mta06bw Feb 26 2002 03:44:21) with SMTP id GUI0RJ00.4R1; Sat, 13 Apr 2002 18:54:55 +1000 Received: from CPE-203-45-60-244.vic.bigpond.net.au ([203.45.60.244]) by bwmam04.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V3.0j 29/1230804); 13 Apr 2002 18:54:55 Message-ID: <09aa01c1e2c8$e241e370$2701a8c0@MICHAEL2> From: "Michael Phaze" To: "Clemens Hermann" , "Odhiambo Washington" Cc: References: <20020411112142.GE90954@ns2.wananchi.com> <20020411134756.A913@idefix.local> Subject: Re: CUSTOM BUILT SERVERS Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 18:54:54 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am using the qmail/vmailmgr/omail-admin/courier pop+imap/amavis anti virus setup, all compiled in the prefix /usr/local/mail so I can move it to another server if asked (something I have already been told to do by the boss) Works ok but I feel its a bit clunky, needing so many deps. (even excluding amavis) I have been considering trying the setup from this howto below http://www.delouw.ch/linux/Postfix-Cyrus-Web-cyradm-HOWTO/html/index.html I have seen a few people recommend IMP http://www.horde.org/imp/ but going to the web site all it seems to be is webmail php software and not a complete mail solution, can any one shed some light on this? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clemens Hermann" To: "Odhiambo Washington" Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:47 PM Subject: Re: CUSTOM BUILT SERVERS > Am 11.04.2002 um 14:21:42 schrieb Odhiambo Washington: > > Hi Wash, > > it's not completely clear to me if you are only looking for an email-solution or > also apache config etc. > So I'll just reply for e-mail for now :). > > > 1. Runs on BSD (FreeBSD most preferred) > > all MTA'S I know of that run on *NIX do run on FreeBSD > > > 2. Has support for virtual domains > > this should also be possible at most perhaps every MTA. Postfi'x and qmail > have good solutions I know of. > > > 3. Robust support for aliasing > > also true for all "mainstream" MTAs :) > > > 4. GUI/Web Interface that will allow a mere 'operator' to manage it > > I like omail-admin very much. It has a great bunch of options and is easy to > use. You can delegate different domains to different admins. The only drawback: > You need a per-domain login so you have to logout and then login again if you > want to configure different domains. But this is done in a second. > > omail-admin is on top of qmail/vmailmgr which are also both very good packages. > qmail has this license-issue (no license at all) but I think most people c an > live with this. > > > 5. Gives webmail access to both 'real' and 'virtual' users > > this does not depend on the MTA. I would recommend imap-based webmail (not pop3) > or directly accessing the mail-folder like omail-webmail does it (very fast, few > overhead). > My favourites are horde-imp and squirrelmail. > > > 6. Allows strict relay controlling? > > you mean smtp-auth/smtp-after-pop and IP-based relaying? postfix/qmail also > offer this, Exim and sendmail probably also. > > > 7. Flexible MTA (Exim preffered) > > didn't you talk about security? Exim is not considered the most secure MTA > e.g. because of its all-in-one architecture. qmail and postfix are more > modular and so by design less vulnerable. Furthermore the performance of > the latter is often said to be very good (especially in comparison to sendmail). > > > 8. Actively developed/supported > > qmail and postfix are, donno about the other. > > > 9. Possibly bundled with LDAP-based services > > qmail-ldap is available and seems to work great. It adds many functions to stock > qmail and also has a web-interface for stuff. This interface even allows to > login once and configure all domains without logoff/logon. > > > 10. Cost effective > > the software I was talking about is all free but it will take time to get into > the subject. > > > 11. Can interface with a proprietary system like EXTENT RBS?? > > donno about this. What is it? > > > My boss suggests we buy something like that (bundled messaging server). > > I don't like these out-of the box windows-like solution. They don't offer > the same flexibility as a custom configured setup. The never fit your needs as > a setup where you selected the parts. > Finally you have to learn your system anyway as admin. > > > This would 'free' me from having to worry so much about Exim, virtual > > domains, courier-imap, > > but it might force you to stay at a once bought system and it would also take > away all the positive apects of freedom from you :) > > > What advise do you have for me on this? Anything that you can recommend > > will be appreciated. > > I have been usind qmail/vmailmgr/omail-admin/omail-webmail for a good while > and it has served me very well. I 'll change to imp soon but the rest keeps as > it is. > > hth > > /ch > > -- > "Contrary to popular belief, Unix is user friendly. > It just happens to be selective about who it makes friends with." > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message