From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 10:31:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9540E1065670; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:31:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FBB8FC18; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 10:31:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from x220.ovitrap.com ([122.129.201.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q52AVJmV031326; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 04:31:21 -0600 From: Erich Dollansky To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 16:42:04 +0700 Message-ID: <1405746.nVtAo183hi@x220.ovitrap.com> Organization: ALO Green Technologies Pte Ltd User-Agent: KMail/4.8.3 (Linux/3.3.7-1.fc16.x86_64; KDE/4.8.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <2189681.al9jQ9fsnP@x220.ovitrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: David Chisnall , Chris Rees Subject: Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 10:31:23 -0000 Hi, On 02 June 2012 AM 9:14:28 Chris Rees wrote: > On Jun 2, 2012 4:04 AM, "Erich Dollansky" > wrote: > > > > But I have to mention one disadvantage. The ports are in no way linked to > the releases. This leads to situations in which a small change in a basic > library will result in a complete update of the installed ports. I > expressed this already many time here. It would be of advantage if the > ports tree would also have tags like the base system itself. > > > > Unfortunately this is a massive amount of extra work - we only just keep up > with updates as it is. I do not think so. At least not for the first step as I see it. Just make snapshots of the ports tree when the release comes out. These snapshots are with the releases anyway. What I did was very simple. I got the ports tree that comes with the release and installed the system back to the release status. Ok, it was some work for me - maybe not for others - to find this tree. A simple link could help here. I do not know if this is just an opinion which is too optimistic. What I know is that all the security fixes which appeared since the release are not in there. If I have the choice between three days or more of compiling and known security holes, I will take the security holes, make the client happy and upgrade after the work for the client is finished. I would not expect that FreeBSD will provide more than this. Erich