From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 1 15:29:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEC216A401 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2007 15:29:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apatewna@yahoo.gr) Received: from deliver.hol.gr (deliver.hol.gr [62.38.3.252]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E084F13C48C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2007 15:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apatewna@yahoo.gr) Received: from auth-smtp.hol.gr (takeit02.mail.dc.hol.net [192.168.20.72]) by deliver.hol.gr (8.12.11/8.11.6) with ESMTP id l31FT3iE011575 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256 bits) verified OK); Sun, 1 Apr 2007 18:29:03 +0300 Received: from [192.168.1.20] (ppp129-124.dsl.hol.gr [89.210.129.124]) (authenticated bits=0) by auth-smtp.hol.gr (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l31FT5Y0031327; Sun, 1 Apr 2007 18:29:06 +0300 Message-ID: <460FCFCF.9020500@yahoo.gr> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 18:29:19 +0300 From: Apatewna User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garrett Cooper References: <460BB75B.3080504@diomedia.be> <44slbl4gqf.fsf@Lowell-Desk.lan> <460EE3D0.3020702@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <460EE3D0.3020702@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.90/2987/Sun Apr 1 06:15:28 2007 on takeit02.mail.dc.hol.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: time problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: apatewna@yahoo.gr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 15:29:09 -0000 O/H Garrett Cooper έγραψε: > Some vendors are lame too and ship motherboards with dead batteries (or > the voltage in them dissipates over time because of parasitic impedances > in the area). > -Garrett As a field service tech, I am advising all people on the list that there is a high probability for 2-3 year old desktop machines to have a CMOS battery failure. I started getting service calls on P4-2Gigs and above just a month ago and also my AthlonXP 2600+ machine (motherboard bought in end of 2004) had a battery failure. At one instance I had to replace a battery on a P4-3G that had been put out of operation for a month (totally unplugged from mains power). Also, stop stocking CR2032 batteries from broken motherboards, they are either already failed or nearly at end of life. Always use new spares. -- RTFM and STFW before anything bad happens _________________________________________ Thanasis Rizoulis Electronic Computing Systems Engineer Larissa, Greece FreeBSD/PCBSD user