From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Apr 12 22:24:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA07446 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 22:24:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA07437 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 22:24:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (jaresh-102.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.86.230]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id FAA29566; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 05:24:20 GMT Received: from darkstar.connect.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02877; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 00:24:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804130524.AAA02877@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 00:24:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Subject: Re: Promoting FreeBSD - the user's piece of the action. To: dwilde1@ibm.net cc: fpawlak@execpc.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@time.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <353195BB.CF72D4E4@ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Don, I think I owe you and everyone on the group an appology. I hammered you and I was clearly out of line. I got your last post and now I realize that you were being funny, and I have made an ass out of mysef. I hope you'll forgive and remain with the project. I should have seen that you were pulling my chain. Untill I get to know you guys, make your humor obvious, and for my part I promise to hold fire and wait to see what is really going on. To one and all, please accept my most sincere appologies. Frank On 12 Apr, Don Wilde wrote: > Frank Pawlak wrote: > > >> As for me, my background has primarily been in project management, >> consulting, and tangible and intangible sales all in computer related >> activities. I am self taught in UNIX and by no means an expert. Thus I >> am volunteering to work as one of the coordinators of project >> positioning or what the hell ever we end up calling this phase of the >> project. >> >> Jordan, I understand that you are very busy, but I think that we'll >> need you as an informal advisor at least untill we get on our feet on >> the ground a little bit. Your name fills the slot as the project PR >> guy and am sure you have strong feelings as to project direction, image >> etc., so I defer to you on some of these issues. I have read the >> information on the project from the web site and have a feel for some >> of this stuff. I would invite all volunteers, especially those >> writting press releases and advertising things to digest this and pass >> it on to those people that you are working with. >> >> Appears to me that there are many issues that need to be addressed >> before we go running off half cocked an waisting motion through >> duplication of effort and so forth. At this point we have resources: >> our time, a top notch develop team, the best version of UNIX -- oops >> sorry SCO I didn't say that -- and a web site with much good >> information, and there are commercial publications devoted to Berkeley >> UNIX and greg's The Complete FreeBSD. > > And these incredible mailing lists. Usenet is a zoo, but these -- I > think -- are the key to FreeBSD's success. Start a > freebsd-plug@freebsd.org list, and maybe Jordan and DG and some of the > other core guys can give us some insight as to how they run core from > all over the world. >> >> There are legal and private entities that we have to interface with. I >> believe that FreeBSD is incorporated as is Walnut Creek CDROM We don;t > > I think it is very important for FreeBSD, Inc.'s incorporation to be > switched to 501c3, not just so we who contribute can get a writeoff, but > it's in a legal way kind of like releasing your source code. It's also a > vehicle for encouraging _more_ contributions, perhaps providing more of > what Greg's thinking of without promising anything except what we've > got... the best thing in x86 computing. > >> Along with this I am asking those that have posted their ideas to come >> forth and at least set out their skills inventory and what they can and >> would like to do. Time commitments at this point at least are open to >> your individual capabilities. I have retained your messages as some of >> you had already appeard to commit to certain actions. That response is >> extremely encouraging. >> > Awwww, gee. Big Bro da boss be watching. Yes, teacher, I wrote my > assignment. > >> So far we have a great start. Yes we do need more help. You folks >> that live in countries other than the United States your help is >> especially important. You will be helping the FreeBSD project that is >> true, but you will also be spreading the word to your countryman who >> hunger for technology, that FreeBSD is the best platform to use to >> learn system software, provide internet access service, and as a >> development platform. Documentation on how to install and setup an >> operating system needs to be written in native languages. Your efforts >> will improve the lives of people all over the world through helping >> them to obtain and learn to use modern technology. > > Guys like Ruslan and Amancio and so many others add a life to this > project that I see makes it one of the best things America has _ever_ > done for the world. And it has nothing to do with the > government!!! It no longer belongs to America. It is of the > world. > > Don > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message -- ----------------------------- "At no time is freedom of speech more precious then when a man hits his thumb with a hammer." -- Marshall Lumsden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message