From owner-cvs-all Fri Oct 13 1:45:17 2000 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from netplex.com.au (adsl-64-163-195-99.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.163.195.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBC737B66D; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netplex.com.au (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netplex.com.au (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9D8j7G37534; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:45:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <200010130845.e9D8j7G37534@netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: dima@rdy.com, "Andrey A. Chernov" , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc rc In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:45:07 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Peter Wemm writes: > > Yes, it was discussed and well understood. The fact that you broke > > savecore by trying to use devname(3) before dev_mkdb had been called was > > your bug. [...] > > So why wasn't any attempt made to contact me to see if I was aware of > the bug, and even willing to fix it? Why am I treated as some kind of > irresponsible incompetent twit who needs to have his bugs fixed for > him behind his back? Well, I'm sorry if you took it personally, it wasn't meant that way. Fact: it had been broken for around two weeks. Fact: -current users are told to read -current. Developers of -current are expected to do the same, or at least skim read it for topics relevant to their changes. Perhaps Andrey should have cc'ed you the change, but that is no reason to attack his commit like that (at least, I read it as an attack). A more constructive approach would have been to ask Andrey what was wrong and why the change was needed, rather than "You should have discussed this with me first." in public, and inviting a public reply. We are supposed to be a team effort, and nobody has an "exclusive lock" on bug fixes, especially for a common area like src/etc. IMHO, the fix was what was needed given the current internals of savecore(8). Do you see it differently? Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message