From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 19 02:14:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA07467 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 02:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net ([198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA07441; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 02:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id EAA03251; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 04:13:43 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199610190913.EAA03251@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/db/hash hash_buf.c To: deraadt@theos.com (Theo de Raadt) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 04:13:43 -0500 (EST) Cc: dyson@freebsd.org, deraadt@theos.com, misc@openbsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199610190856.CAA00291@zeus.theos.com> from "Theo de Raadt" at Oct 19, 96 02:56:02 am Reply-To: dyson@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > This was a thread that had a list of over 10 groups/people, and > > simply needed to be pruned... Sorry for my proper ettiquite. > > You pruned too much. You pruned the list where your comments would > look bad. > Sorry, I pruned the list where the discussion isn't important. Any further follow-ups will have FreeBSD lists pruned again. BTW, I really didn't care if anyone saw the messages :-). You are assuming alot. Do you actually think that with your history that I would write anything private to you that you would keep it so??? :-)... > > Nope, only asking for intellectual honesty... I guess I was asking > > for too much. > > No, that is not correct. Your comments denigrated us for approaching > security in this fashion. Unforunately the clearing of that buffer > inside libc/db, at endpwent() time, is the only way you can reliably > solve the problem in all cases. > Nope, my interest is in explaination of your security fixes and substantiation of such claims. > > That's either a lie, John or you are BLIND. pkh flamed me personally. > You are BLIND. > Sorry, I don't take things personally (anymore)... > > > > This is really sad > > Theo... I will still help the OpenBSD team with VM problems... > > Thank you. But I will not help FreeBSD with security problems unless > something drastic happens. > Refer to my statement below. > > > It looks like to me: OpenBSD -- all take and no give... > > That's garbage. You just expected us to behave nice after you called > our change stupid without asking us if we'd found some other flaws. > You are substantiating my claim by saying that you won't help FreeBSD... Sorry, your attitude is clear. I am still offering to help OpenBSD with their (non-robust, susceptable to denial of service) VM system, but I do see that it isn't reciprocal. Sad... John dyson@FreeBSD.org -- BSD with a heart, we offer to help.