From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 10:12:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81E51065670; Sat, 3 Mar 2012 10:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5118FC18; Sat, 3 Mar 2012 10:12:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id q23ACaEi016466 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 3 Mar 2012 02:12:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id q23ACaaV016464; Sat, 3 Mar 2012 02:12:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA12669; Sat, 3 Mar 12 02:09:24 PST Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 09:09:09 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: hm@hm.net.br Message-Id: <4f525035.FeXsLHWGEs0tQIdS%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20120221143537.Horde.deyFDZjmRSRPQ52pxBIpnLA@webmail.leidinger.net> <4F4BA707.5070608@wasikowski.net> <4F4C3FE7.3040802@FreeBSD.org> <4F4D51CB.2010508@FreeBSD.org> <4F4D5E5D.9040302@FreeBSD.org> <4F4DD288.5060106@FreeBSD.org> <4F4ED889.2070608@FreeBSD.org> <4F500BB9.4040307@FreeBSD.org> <4F5088CA.1090108@FreeBSD.org> <4F510FBD.50008@FreeBSD.org> <4F513B2D.6010809@FreeBSD.org> <4F5148A7.4080408@FreeBSD.org> <4F51BDDA.3020602@hm.net.br> In-Reply-To: <4F51BDDA.3020602@hm.net.br> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stable@freebsd.org, dougb@freebsd.org, avg@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flowtable usable or not X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 10:12:37 -0000 H wrote: > ... Forever installing FreeBSD Desktop, either KDE or Gnome, > was a nightmare process, or better, to make it appear on screen > was a nightmare. I have never understood the point of KDE or Gnome, other than (perhaps) as eye candy for the uninitiated. If I wanted a Windows desktop, I would install Windows. If I wanted a Mac desktop, I would use a Mac. I do use a few applications that were written using the Gnome or KDE _toolkits_, but that doesn't require me to run the whole Gnome or KDE "environment" (aka resource hog). Fvwm2 seems to be a perfectly adequate window manager.